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OT car mechanics
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:56 am
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:56 am
Consolidated version.
Vehicle had to have body repair work and this includes replacing radiator.
Repair shop forgot to hook hose back up to engine causing it to overheat and lock up. Electrical system did not notify me of overheating. Engine ended up sounding like a Diesel engine and it's only a V-6. Vehicle had to be towed as it would not start. Approximately 30 to 40 miles had been driven with no coolant before locking up.
What type of engine tests should I have conducted? Compression? Electrical? Anything else? What future problems could I potentially have even if tests don't reveal any damage today?
Body shop has admitted negligence and is working with me to resolve issue.
Vehicle had to have body repair work and this includes replacing radiator.
Repair shop forgot to hook hose back up to engine causing it to overheat and lock up. Electrical system did not notify me of overheating. Engine ended up sounding like a Diesel engine and it's only a V-6. Vehicle had to be towed as it would not start. Approximately 30 to 40 miles had been driven with no coolant before locking up.
What type of engine tests should I have conducted? Compression? Electrical? Anything else? What future problems could I potentially have even if tests don't reveal any damage today?
Body shop has admitted negligence and is working with me to resolve issue.
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:58 am to Will Cover
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Repair shop forgot to hook hose back up to engine causing it to overheat and lock up.
I would demand a new engine. If it overheated you could have warped all sorts of components that will expose themselves over time.
They would be buying that car from me.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:01 pm to Will Cover
Your engine is fricked. Head is probably warped or rods gone inside engine. You should have had an engine light come on or vehicle should have shut off prior too your engine blown. Whoever did your radiator replace owes you a new engine.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:03 pm to Will Cover
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Body shop has admitted negligence and is working with me to resolve issue.
Well that's a good start
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:06 pm to Will Cover
I would get them to agree to have an independent mechanic look at the engine so you get a second unbiased opinion of the damage.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:06 pm to windshieldman
Probably needs a new Johnson rod. And I don't think they make them anymore. It's all ball bearings these days.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:09 pm to windshieldman
The body shop brought it to an independent mechanic shop located near their place and everything checked out fine is what I am being told.
I instructed them to bring my vehicle to dealership where I purchased and have them run same tests. I called my dealership and the tests that body shop is having dealership conduct are very minimal. Having actual work order faxed to me for verification.
I have initiated legal counsel but have not pursued it any further at this point which is why I am asking for engine advice on here.
I instructed them to bring my vehicle to dealership where I purchased and have them run same tests. I called my dealership and the tests that body shop is having dealership conduct are very minimal. Having actual work order faxed to me for verification.
I have initiated legal counsel but have not pursued it any further at this point which is why I am asking for engine advice on here.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:10 pm to Will Cover
Temperature senders relay water temps. If there is no water there is no information relayed. In other words if the system has no water in it then it will just read cold. All the while it is scalding hot.
If the engine is locked up, you will not be able to test anything.
Make them pay for a new engine to be installed. Do not let them do it, as they are a body shop and do not posses the necessary staff to do a radiator much less an entire engine.
When it is all said and done, drive it around a while and if no problems arise, get rid of the car.
The only thing they can come back with in say a court situation is that you continued to drive it while it was hot. Up in the first paragraph is your counter for that. It is legit and true, easily verified by any mechanic.
If the engine is locked up, you will not be able to test anything.
Make them pay for a new engine to be installed. Do not let them do it, as they are a body shop and do not posses the necessary staff to do a radiator much less an entire engine.
When it is all said and done, drive it around a while and if no problems arise, get rid of the car.
The only thing they can come back with in say a court situation is that you continued to drive it while it was hot. Up in the first paragraph is your counter for that. It is legit and true, easily verified by any mechanic.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:12 pm to windshieldman
I have not had my vehicle since January 3rd.
My vehicle is paid for, no note and I am concerned that if I pursue their insurance company will only give me what my vehicle is currently worth.
My original plan was to keep my vehicle for 10 years. Now I have concerns that I may be left stranded somewhere down the line or worse, my wife with our children.
My vehicle is paid for, no note and I am concerned that if I pursue their insurance company will only give me what my vehicle is currently worth.
My original plan was to keep my vehicle for 10 years. Now I have concerns that I may be left stranded somewhere down the line or worse, my wife with our children.
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:13 pm to Will Cover
Take it to a dealership. I would not trust some random palace doing or maybe you know someone that uses their own mechanic for years.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:14 pm to tt54l32v
Everything that I have typed is 100 % accurate. To the body shop's credit, they immediately sent two of their employees out to look at vehicle where it stalled, quickly diagnosed the problem, admitted their mistake, towed my vehicle and now have me in a rental at their expense.
They paid for their independent evaluation and are paying for my dealership's evaluation, although both tests appear to not be the same at this point.
They paid for their independent evaluation and are paying for my dealership's evaluation, although both tests appear to not be the same at this point.
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:15 pm to Will Cover
Put a magnet into an oil drain pan, and drain the oil into it. That will give you an idea of what your looking at, but like others have said your engine is toast.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:18 pm to biohzrd
My ex wife fried our vans engine metal all in that pan. Shop said they could fix for 3k or get a rebuild. Van went to the scrap yard.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:20 pm to Will Cover
It would be a miracle if the engine isn't shot.
What vehicle and engine?
What vehicle and engine?
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:22 pm to Will Cover
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I have initiated legal counsel but have not pursued it any further at this point which is why I am asking for engine advice on here.
I don't see how you wouldn't have a blown engine after driving that long with hose unattached and no coolant or anything. I definitely could be wrong and I'm sure someone else will chime in more. Seems like you are doing everything you should do to get this resolved. I'm not sure what other tests they can run to make sure engine is ok but the fact it locked up and iirc you had to have it towed tells me enough
I would be trying to get a new engine out of it and have dealership to replace it while body shop covers entire price, I"m sure their insurance will take care of it. Its not a knock on the body shop, we are all human and make mistakes. I've made a bad one before myself. Replaced a windshield a few years ago while getting close to dark and rushed everything. Had a gap in urethane and during a heavy rain leaked all in customer's car. Ruined some electronics, headliner, etc. I cut out and put a new one in and had customer decide on body shop to take car to, was about $1500 in damage and my insurance covered it, not counting I installed another windshield for free obviously. Crappy feeling but she is still a customer of mine. Sounds like they are trying to work with ya, many mechanic and bodyshops will lie their arse off to keep from coming out of pocket.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:22 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Nissan 3.5 liter V-6 CVT transmission.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:24 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Get a print out of the compression test and compare the numbers for each of the cylinders. Could have damaged rings, valves, head, head gaskets, etc. Pressure test the cooling system to see if any gaskets or seals are melted or leaking. Oil sample sent in for oil analysis if they haven't changed the oil already. Oil analysis will tell you what kinds of metals if any in the oil. This could be very useful.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:25 pm to biohzrd
pull the oil dip stick and check the oil, milky?
is so you have a blown head gasket and mixed coolant with oil
whats the make?
is so you have a blown head gasket and mixed coolant with oil
whats the make?
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:26 pm to windshieldman
We are human and mistakes happen. I appreciate the body shop working with me to make it right, but I believe their idea of right is being done with minimal cost in mind.
The body shop has said they will warranty any work done by them for a lifetime, but what if electrical system goes out? I am then caught in the middle as repair shop might say this was caused by engine overheating and body shop saying no.
Potentially, it's not a position I am comfortable putting myself in.
The body shop has said they will warranty any work done by them for a lifetime, but what if electrical system goes out? I am then caught in the middle as repair shop might say this was caused by engine overheating and body shop saying no.
Potentially, it's not a position I am comfortable putting myself in.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:28 pm to No8Easy2
Sounds like there wasn't any coolant to begin with. Maybe a little left in the block but it definitely would not have been circulating in the system without the radiator attached.
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