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Recommendation of CC for a woman.

Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:07 pm
My daughter wants a CC pistol and I really don't know what's what when it comes to plastic pistols.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:12 pm to
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offshoretrash


Getting her to keep an eye out for Jody while you're on the rig?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45793 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:13 pm to
From the FAQ...

Handguns for Women
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:17 pm to
To do it "right" you need to let her hold and shoot a few cause, in the end, it's a question SHE has to answer.

This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:19 pm to
What Geauxtiga said
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:23 pm to
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What Geauxtiga said

OB educated brah. Learned that here.
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:24 pm to
How big a girl we talking bout?
Experiance shooting handguns?
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 4:25 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:31 pm to
Glock 19
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 4:34 pm
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2866 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:38 pm to
Sig P238 Sport

End of discussion
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:08 pm to
Gonna look at the Sig.
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:13 pm to
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Sig P238 Sport 


This. I don't like women carrying double action revolvers that don't have a safety. Too easy to set it off while trying to grab makeup etc. out of their purse.

The 238 is a great shooting pistol. I've fired close to 2000 fmj rounds and 400 hollow points through mine. Never had a single issue.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:14 pm to
I'm in the same situation with my daughter. She wants to carry one for protection but she is a real newbie.

We went to a gunshow a couple months ago to see which ones she felt fit well in her hand.

One weekend soon, we're gonna head over to Barney's and I'll rent a few for her to shoot and get familiar with.

LC
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13839 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:23 pm to
Go to your local gun range, and rent a few different firearms. In the end, let HER choose her gun. If you pick out the gun for her, and she doesn't like it..... she'll never carry it

Smith & Wesson Airweight 642, or any other lightweight revolver, is NOT the correct answer.



Walther PK380 is an excellent choice for a semi-auto. The slide is very easy to operate.

Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:43 pm to
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To do it "right" you need to let her hold and shoot a few cause, in the end, it's a question SHE has to answer.


Nailed it. It needs to be her choice. She will feel much more comfortable with it if she chooses it herself. It also gives her the confidence to want to carry it and practice with it.

What is her experience level? If she has not shot a lot of handguns, immediately going to a tiny concealed carry gun is not the right route. Tons of recoil, not much to grab, hard to connect with, tiny sight radius, etc. ALWAYS start her on a full sized pistol, a 22 or a 9mm would be ideal. I've taught some women how to shoot on my 1911 as well but I still think a 22 or 9mm is your best option.

If she has experience, then I think she would get the most out of something single stack. If she's not wild about carrying a tiny 380, then I think a single stack 9mm would be a better option. Thinness is even more important in a carry gun for women, not because of their tiny hands, but because of the way they dress in tighter clothing.

I also strongly suggest she NOT carry in a purse. If she's the victim of a robbery, that is the FIRST thing they are going to grab. Then she will be unarmed. If she has to carry that way at times, it's probably okay. But advise her not to dedicate herself to carry in a purse, only special occasions.

My suggestions:

9mm - S&W Shield, Springfield XDs, Kahr CM9, Walther CCP, Walther PPS

380 - Kahr CW380, Ruger LCP

EDIT: The Sig P238 and 938 are also good options but she MUST practice disengaging and engaging the safety when practicing.

I also advise you check out my video here:

Firearms for Women

And ultimately if she has no plans to carry it, or wants to get multiple handguns for different roles, a full sized 9mm carries a lot of benefits over a tiny one, the most important things being controllability and capacity.

Or if she doesn't practice a lot and wants something simple, a Ruger GP100 or S&W 686 are two great 357 revolvers. Again though, I stress to stay with something FULL sized.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:27 pm to
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Nailed it. It needs to be her choice.
Well the first time I ever heard that I know it was you who said it so you'd better agree.

I almost added that you probably have a video on this topic but since I like to pick on you about your vids I didn't want it to be taken as a joke.

This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 6:28 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:47 pm to
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I almost added that you probably have a video on this topic but since I like to pick on you about your vids I didn't want it to be taken as a joke.




You noticed I linked one right? My channel is like "there's an app for that!"

There's a Bapple video for that!
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:49 pm to
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You noticed I linked one right?
I actually had to edit last post cause I'd asked you if you had one then went back and saw you'd linked one you stinker.
Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

To do it "right" you need to let her hold and shoot a few cause, in the end, it's a question SHE has to answer.


+1
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17669 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:16 pm to
Key her decide not us
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:40 pm to
I'm sure all the people telling you to let her decide are doing this with good intentions.

BUT ...............

I'm gonna assume here that she knows little or nothing about self-defense handguns.

So .............

Your job is to limit your//her search to makes and models that fall in the top tier of reliability. If she picks one that's all cute and feels good in her hands, but the one she picks is a POS that's all too likely to crap out when she actually needs it ...... you get the picture.

If you're looking at small revolvers (which come with their own problems as far as shootability)-- get a S&W, a good used Colt or a Ruger. EVERYTHING else comes with too much risk of being unreliable.

If you're looking at semi-autos, I'd suggest limiting your research to Glocks, the M&P line by Smith & Wesson, SIGs, HKs, maybe some Beretta's (like the PX4).

JUST UNDERSTAND THIS ....... if you/she picks a little (small, light) gun, it's gonna be a lot harder to shoot well than a "medium" or full-sized gun (because it'll be a lot harder to control.

SabiDoJo has posted the best advice so far.

BEFORE (or after) AFTER SHE GETS A GUN ....... you really ought to look into getting her a marksmanship lesson with a good certified instructor. A good instructor will start her with a .22 (to avoid developing a flinch), and gradually work up to a full caliber weapon.

Just my $.02 worth.



Almost forgot.

p.s. Quit looking on outdoor forums for self-defense handgun advice. And whatever you do, don't look in gun magazines. And don't ask the kid behind the counter at the gun store. A good instructor will be able to offer some solid advice on purchasing a SD handgun after he has worked with her for an hour or two.
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