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Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:18 pm to The Mick
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They are paid in tuition, books, housing, apparel, meals, personal tutors, etc.
This... as others have already alluded to...
Factor in the not only the cost of tuition, books, ect.. but also the additional income they will earn over the course of their life as opposed to without a college degree and I think you will be surprised at how much they are currently getting paid.
So the "Should athletes get paid" is the wrong question.. The question should be as follows: Should athletes get any additional benefits than what they already receive?
That is a more properly framed inquiry...
That should be the basis of your response..
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:27 pm to asmiley1025
I paid thousands and thousands of dollars to go to college in an attempt to have a career after college in my major field
they go to college for free in an attempt to either have a luxurious career in the nfl or in their major field of choice
summary: they are paid thousands a year
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they go to college for free in an attempt to either have a luxurious career in the nfl or in their major field of choice
summary: they are paid thousands a year
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This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:28 pm to Mshargois3
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They should
There is nothing indicating that players should be paid other than some perception of unfairness that isn't backed by evidence.
The college game is not suffering (football) due to players not being paid. Thousands of athletes willingly accept that they will not be paid to play collegiate sports. Any athlete can stop playing collegiate sports whenever they want without penalty.
The issue is one of market conditions. Players should be paid, only when the product would suffer without it. CLEARLY, the conditions for play are satisfactory because very few if any athletes decide that it's not worth it.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:31 pm to asmiley1025
No. They should not be paid salaries as they are not employees of a business.
They also should not be penalized for making income. If a college athlete wants to work and make some side money, feel free. But once again, playing college sports isn't a job, its a privilege and a choice. No salaries.
They also should not be penalized for making income. If a college athlete wants to work and make some side money, feel free. But once again, playing college sports isn't a job, its a privilege and a choice. No salaries.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:33 pm to asmiley1025
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:35 pm to CecilShortsHisPants
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No. They should not be paid salaries as they are not employees of a business. They also should not be penalized for making income. If a college athlete wants to work and make some side money, feel free. But once again, playing college sports isn't a job, its a privilege and a choice. No salaries.
This, but they should also be able to make money off of their name if they have the opportunity (like AJ Green & Johnny Manziel autograph scandal bs). What gives the NCAA the authority to tell someone they can't make money? This is 'Murica. There are kids in their teens who are making money from being famous on twitter/vine/etc because the amount of followers attracts businesses to advertise through them. Why not college atheletes?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:48 pm to asmiley1025
No comment in this thread addresses the real problem: collusion between the NFL and NCAA. The collusion between the two is clear. The ONLY reason it is allowed to lawfully exist is because the NCAA maintains amateur athlete status.
People who say that football players volunteer to play for collegiate teams are ignoring the collusion that serves to squelch any other professional or semi-pro options.
It is this reason that requires that the NCAA act like irrational buffoons when a player gets money from autographs or free tattoos. Compensated players open up Pandora's box of litigation that goes even beyond the O'Bannon lawsuit.
People who say that football players volunteer to play for collegiate teams are ignoring the collusion that serves to squelch any other professional or semi-pro options.
It is this reason that requires that the NCAA act like irrational buffoons when a player gets money from autographs or free tattoos. Compensated players open up Pandora's box of litigation that goes even beyond the O'Bannon lawsuit.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:06 pm to The Mick
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They are paid in tuition, books, housing, apparel, meals, personal tutors, etc.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:06 pm to klrstix
quote:As a parent who is currently paying all of this for their child (except the tuition), I can tell you its REAL MONEY.
They are paid in tuition, books, housing, apparel, meals, personal tutors, etc.
This... as others have already alluded to...
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:08 pm to asmiley1025
I was an LSU walk-on and do not think athletes should be paid. We aren't professionals and if you are getting an athletic scholarship that should be enough. There are a lot of extra benefits outside of the scholarship: clothes, shoes, meals, per diem, conference championship gifts, etc. Those who want more are greedy. And for those of us who choose to walk-on, it's for the love of the sport.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:12 pm to asmiley1025
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I have to write a report on if college athletes should be paid or not. I would like to hear anybody and everybody's point of view on the topic. Thank you
If your teacher is a male, he probably has an account here. Be careful not to plagiarize.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:17 pm to asmiley1025
A kid comes to school and not only is he afforded a free education but he also gains access to the school's facilities in order to improve his skills. Not only that but the university pays professional coaches to work with kid in order to make him more attractive to a professional team. Additionally the school provides a showcase for the kid to display the skills he's acquired.
They're getting as much as they're giving.
They're getting as much as they're giving.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:26 pm to LSUengineer12
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College players not getting paid a salary is what truly keeps the emotion of playing collegiate sports so pure. It's one of the reasons many people prefer collegiate sports over pro sports because many times, it's no longer about love for the game.
This idea would make one hell of a paragraph in your repot.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:28 pm to tigersint
does nobody else see the irony of OP trying to get others to do his work for him with no compensation?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:26 pm to asmiley1025
No. They are getting paid via a free education,lodging,food, and medical care. Many of these people are given jobs after they graduate; family members also often find employment. Enough is enough.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:03 pm to asmiley1025
NCAA Vote Expands Athletic Scholarships
Just copy this article for your report. Be sure to cite your references!
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The vote, taken during the NCAA's annual convention, redefines an athletic scholarship so that it can cover not only the traditional tuition, room, board, books and fees, but also the incidental costs of attending college. That means a scholarship will now be able to pay for items including transportation and miscellaneous personal expenses.
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Changes include a loss-of-value insurance
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a new policy that prohibits schools and coaches "from choosing not to renew an athlete's scholarship for athletic reasons."
Just copy this article for your report. Be sure to cite your references!
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:15 pm to bearhc
Yes, these student athletes receive tuition, etc. And now, Pandora's Box has been opened for the big five conferences allowing "true cost of attendance" payments. Of course the true cost will vary by geography/cost of living.
To a youngster without a true understanding, it could have an affect on recruiting. Will he understand that it may cost a few thousand more to live in L.A. than BR ? Or will he just see $2K more a year at USC ?
You can now add their share of merchandise sales with there number or images per a recent law suit.
How do you administer & control these programs & at what cost? The game is changing, not necessarily for the better IMO.
To a youngster without a true understanding, it could have an affect on recruiting. Will he understand that it may cost a few thousand more to live in L.A. than BR ? Or will he just see $2K more a year at USC ?
You can now add their share of merchandise sales with there number or images per a recent law suit.
How do you administer & control these programs & at what cost? The game is changing, not necessarily for the better IMO.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:26 pm to asmiley1025
Any athlete who is talented and prominent enough to warrant a paycheck is probably already getting cash under the table.
People arguing for pay will say that athletes "generate tens of millions for the universities" but they are 'tards and don't understand the difference between revenue and profit. For every $100 million coming through the LSU football program, $90-$95 million is spent. The profits are put in the coffers and eventually used to fund large scale improvements--like the nutrition center that LSU is building.
Even with things like jerseys, the money is negligible. At the height of Johnny Football madness at A&M, the university only pocketed $57,000 for ALL jersey sales, not just the #2 jerseys.
Athletes bring a ton of benefits to the university, but they are also rewarded with a lifestyle no other regular college kid gets (Jordan Jefferson had 50 pairs of Nikes, most likely free from LSU) and the best athletes get exposure and training (e.g. it looks like Johnny Football owes a lot of his rookie contract to Sumlin's offense and the SEC platform rather than his actual QB abilities).
People arguing for pay will say that athletes "generate tens of millions for the universities" but they are 'tards and don't understand the difference between revenue and profit. For every $100 million coming through the LSU football program, $90-$95 million is spent. The profits are put in the coffers and eventually used to fund large scale improvements--like the nutrition center that LSU is building.
Even with things like jerseys, the money is negligible. At the height of Johnny Football madness at A&M, the university only pocketed $57,000 for ALL jersey sales, not just the #2 jerseys.
Athletes bring a ton of benefits to the university, but they are also rewarded with a lifestyle no other regular college kid gets (Jordan Jefferson had 50 pairs of Nikes, most likely free from LSU) and the best athletes get exposure and training (e.g. it looks like Johnny Football owes a lot of his rookie contract to Sumlin's offense and the SEC platform rather than his actual QB abilities).
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:37 pm to victoire sécurisé
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No comment in this thread addresses the real problem: collusion between the NFL and NCAA
How so? The NFL does not require anyone to to attend a university before entering the draft. They just have to be three years removed from high school. Nothing is stopping these kids from forking over their own money to go train at a professional facility for three years to prepare for the NFL.
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