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re: American Sniper movie discussion thread (No book talk, no political bickering)
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:38 pm to PsychTiger
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:38 pm to PsychTiger
Just got out. Decent all-around movie. Started out really hokey, but dialogue improved after the first 20-30 minutes. Solid action scenes. Good performance by Cooper. I could've done without the CGI deer and baby (or was that just a doll?), but whatevs. Overall, pretty good. Nothing special, though.
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:44 pm to Ivan The Terrible
I can't say, it's been a while since I've seen it and I'm pretty sure that I put down quite a few beers while watching it. There were some pretty intense scenes.
What can I say though, as an American it's always unnerving for me to see our troops get shot or blown up on film. Whether that's Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, Zero Dark Thirty, etc.
What can I say though, as an American it's always unnerving for me to see our troops get shot or blown up on film. Whether that's Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, Zero Dark Thirty, etc.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:50 pm to PsychTiger
The wife and I really enjoyed it. I have no idea what our guys over there have been thru, but I feel for them.
I don't go to the movies much, but I've never seen a theater so quiet and solemn as at the end of this movie. I'm really glad they didn't have a scene with the vet killing him.
He may have fabricated/exaggerated some stories, but there's no doubt CK was a real American badass!
I don't go to the movies much, but I've never seen a theater so quiet and solemn as at the end of this movie. I'm really glad they didn't have a scene with the vet killing him.
He may have fabricated/exaggerated some stories, but there's no doubt CK was a real American badass!
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:22 pm to flvelo12
Guess he nailed the audition and gave a very convincing portrayal of himself. 
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:26 pm to abellsujr
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that was the most obvious fake baby I've seen in a movie since Braindead.
I guess I was more focused on the breasts the baby was up against than the baby itself.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:33 pm to PsychTiger
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purported lies in his book
I had a hard time separating this out...what was stretched, and then what did they stretch even further for the movie? Eh...whatever...we find out a lot of people had their lives scrubbed to make a movie. I still liked the movie.
Judged purely as a movie, thought it was as good a war movie as The Hurt Locker or Black Hawk Down. I might've liked it better. I felt it's length at times, but it mostly moved at a good clip. Cooper was definitely awesome. It was a bit "Murica" in the POV of the story, but it's told thru Kyle's eyes...so "Murica!" Totally cool with it, if it's so important to see it thru both sides, someone else can go to the trouble of filming it from their side. It was really good, not great, but probably hits all the notes it wants to hit. I honestly didn't notice the baby.
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:47 pm to DanglingFury
I don't know if it's just me or not, but I didn't get the whole "Merica!!" part of the movie. I didn't think it was anti-American by any means, but I thought one of the major themes was how war really fricks you up and the way he died at the end ties it up in an uncanny poetic way. I honestly think Zero Dark celebrates war and America much more than Sniper. Sniper is too damn depressing to be a super patriotic movie IMO.
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:50 pm to DallasTiger11
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but I thought one of the major themes was how war really fricks you up and the way he died at the end ties it up in an uncanny poetic way.
I'd agree with that.
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Sniper is too damn depressing to be a super patriotic movie IMO.
It was like Captain America meets Game of Thrones.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:57 pm to PsychTiger
I really enjoyed this movie as well. The baby was obvious, can we just end that discussion with a who the fugg really cares?
What I can't believe about the end scenes is that no one is bothered by the scene where is points a gun at his wife. Loaded or not I feel like Kyle wouldn't have been the type to misuse a gun. You never ever point a gun at someone unless you intend to shot them, I thought that was rule number one of guns? Guns are not toys.
Yet everyone in the theater was laughing away at their playful banter. It was surreal to me. I was very thrown off by that, obviously.
What I can't believe about the end scenes is that no one is bothered by the scene where is points a gun at his wife. Loaded or not I feel like Kyle wouldn't have been the type to misuse a gun. You never ever point a gun at someone unless you intend to shot them, I thought that was rule number one of guns? Guns are not toys.
Yet everyone in the theater was laughing away at their playful banter. It was surreal to me. I was very thrown off by that, obviously.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:00 pm to TaxmanMSU
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What I can't believe about the end scenes is that no one is bothered by the scene where is points a gun at his wife. Loaded or not I feel like Kyle wouldn't have been the type to misuse a gun. You never ever point a gun at someone unless you intend to shot them, I thought that was rule number one of guns? Guns are not toys.
Maybe he was suffering from PTSD, and you're the only one that caught it.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:01 pm to TaxmanMSU
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What I can't believe about the end scenes is that no one is bothered by the scene where is points a gun at his wife. Loaded or not I feel like Kyle wouldn't have been the type to misuse a gun. You never ever point a gun at someone unless you intend to shot them, I thought that was rule number one of guns? Guns are not toys.
First thing I thought of when watching that scene
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:03 pm to TaxmanMSU
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You never ever point a gun at someone unless you intend to shot them, I thought that was rule number one of guns? Guns are not toys.
I thought that was kinda strange as well. Especially in front of the kids. It didn't feel like something he would do.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:07 pm to indytiger
I didn't even notice the baby, so I feel left out.
My biggest minor complaint was the slo-mo bullet to kill Mustafa. Obviously this isn't a big deal at all, but with how gritty and realistic most of the movie was directed I thought that part was ridiculous. I think they could have done a better job with the Kyle vs Mustafa storyline as a whole too.
My biggest minor complaint was the slo-mo bullet to kill Mustafa. Obviously this isn't a big deal at all, but with how gritty and realistic most of the movie was directed I thought that part was ridiculous. I think they could have done a better job with the Kyle vs Mustafa storyline as a whole too.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:08 pm to PsychTiger
It was a good movie to be from Texas, put a dip in and enjoy.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:12 pm to flvelo12
Thought it was great. Noticed the fake baby but didn't care.
Thought Cooper did a great job, especially conveying the idea that even when home, a lot of these soldiers/vets aren't really "home".
I did like Zero Dark Thirty better, but they were really different types of movies.
Sniper was IMO way better than The Hurt Locker.
Thought Cooper did a great job, especially conveying the idea that even when home, a lot of these soldiers/vets aren't really "home".
I did like Zero Dark Thirty better, but they were really different types of movies.
Sniper was IMO way better than The Hurt Locker.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:15 pm to DallasTiger11
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the slo-mo bullet to kill Mustafa.
It was like they inserted a scene from Wanted.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:54 pm to PsychTiger
Just finished watching the movie. Good film. I don't know how they recruit or determine deployment but they definitely need a program to determine mental stability and if the recruit will have the mental/emotional fortitude to cope with war. Judging from Kyle's brother and the killer, those type of guys should never be near a rifle or the battlefield.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 11:28 pm to GrunT23
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I didn't read the book but what I probably think happened is that Kyle and his buddies created the myth of Mustafa. There would be no way to know it was actually him in most of those engagements. I'm sure there was some real Intel that there was a Syrian guy running around who was really good but they probably buit him up in their heads more than anything. Like the guy giving the brief before the final mission said
"He can be whoever the frick you need him to be. Just get him."
There was a legend running around in my area of a Saddam-era field grade officer (I want to say a major) who was trained by the East Germans (and that's not too far-fetched - I ran into a lot of officers who were trained by/in the DDR) who was just deadly as frick. There was legitimately an insurgent who had a head shot on an American soldier from 500+ meters while he was moving. Whether or not it was actually this particular guy, who the hell knows. A lot of this stuff got started by local sheiks so that we'd pay more attention to their areas and bring them more money and power.
Concerning the movie, I thought it was superb. I more or less will cop to agreeing with Paul Rieckhoff's take in Variety - it is easily the best and most accurate Iraq film made yet, even if I don't jibe with Kyle's worldview (or Eastwood's take on the book). They screwed up the Marine tactics in Tour 1, but other than that, I don't have too many qualms. I was in the area that Tour 4 took place in quite a bit, and they got the look and feel of that place about as close as I could imagine any movie ever getting other than a documentary.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:17 am to PsychTiger
I liked the movie. I took it for what it was, as I didn't read the book. I don't care about the real Chris Kyle and what he did or didn't do. I didn't watch the movie to learn his life story. I watched it to see a movie about a man who is an expert at his craft. The movie served it's purpose and whether or not Chris Kyle was a liar/shitty person/a-hole isn't my concern. BC was great.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 8:07 am to PsychTiger
it was good.
Lone Survivor was better.
Lone Survivor was better.
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