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Posted on 1/19/15 at 8:32 am
Posted by tigerbaiter1033
USA
Member since Nov 2011
2308 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 8:32 am
Anyone know what is the best soundbar out there on the market? Also has anyone bought electronics off of Alibaba sort of want to try it out
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77927 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 8:45 am to
Define Best

You can spend very little money or quite the chunk of change.
This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 8:47 am
Posted by surprisewitness
Littleton, CO
Member since Apr 2013
555 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:40 am to
Best? probably the Paradigm Soundscape - $1500
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22159 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:41 am to
You have to define your budget
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15319 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Best? probably the Paradigm Soundscape - $1500


I am not a sound engineer but I would assume at some point the law of diminishing returns comes in to play with a sound bar after a certain price. Why would someone spend $1500 on a 2.1 setup.

Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6698 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Why would someone spend $1500 on a 2.1 setup.


Say what?
Posted by LSU0596
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
332 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 1:51 pm to
Polk and Sony make good sound bars with wireless subs in the $450 to $700 range. Good sounds for anything. Picked up 2 of each in the past 8 months. One for my office, family room and the boys bedrooms.
But, for the game room where we generally watch movies and games, the 5.1 is the only way we roll.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15319 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Say what?


Just seems like if you are investing that much money, you would be going for 5.1 or 7.1, not 2.1.

This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
1 Post
Member since Aug 2004
77927 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Just seems like if you are investing that much money, you would be going for 5.1 or 7.1, not 2.1.



Some people, like Gaston, are not interested in surround sound and think 2.0 or 2.1 is best for everything.

There are some crazy expensive 2.0 speakers out there. Like hundreds of thousands of dollars.

This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15319 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5701 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 2:52 pm to
I found this guys reddit posts to be informative: LINK

He would argue that you can find much more quality sound for similar cash by building your own component system.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

I am not a sound engineer but I would assume at some point the law of diminishing returns comes in to play with a sound bar after a certain price. Why would someone spend $1500 on a 2.1 setup.


Well, I think it's incorrect to call that soundbar 2.1. It's got center speakers in it. It should be either 1.1 or 3.1 (technically, the soundbar is 1.0 or 3.0, the number after the decimal, of course, is the number of dedicated subwoofers). $1500 for a 2.1 system (not a soundbar) really hasn't scratched the surface of diminishing returns, in my humble opinion. When considering the whole system (source, DAC, processor, preamp, amp, speakers), that number is probably closer to $5000 if you're excluding sources other than a cable box (we are talking about home theatre, not dedicated audio setups. That number skyrockets quickly from there). I suppose "diminishing returns" is subjective, but you'll hear pretty significant differences with the right setup up to a point. You can make a good $1500 setup in the right room sound better than a $5000 that is setup poorly (I prefer the 2.0 setup I put together for around $1400 to my ex-roommate's ~$5k setup, which was 7.1 with everything but the sub in the ceiling).

Now, as far as the benefits of 2/3.0/1 vs 5.1+, almost all the sound will be coming through the fronts. In the right room where you're sitting one to two people the appropriate distance from a pair of speakers, it's hard to beat good 2.0 sound from a nice setup. If seating is not ideal (two pairs of ears at the right distance directly in between the two speakers), a good and matched center (3.0) becomes vital. The soundstage on a system like this can approach the point that you won't miss rear speakers. Was going to expand more, but am leaving now.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

He would argue that you can find much more quality sound for similar cash by building your own component system.


He's right. But unfortunately, some people refuse to have any visible wires or run wire at all. It's a shame, because it's so darn easy. A decent center channel pushed by even the most modest of home theatre receivers is usually, at worst, on par with a better soundbar with similar pricing. But then you can add fronts and rears later if you want to upgrade. A soundbar cannot be upgraded. And if the speakers go bad, the whole unit must be replaced. If a center goes bad, you can replace it while holding onto your amp, if that's your thing.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6698 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Just seems like if you are investing that much money, you would be going for 5.1 or 7.1, not 2.1.


Over the years I've gone from 5.1 to 3.1, now at 2.1. I much prefer the 2.1 setup.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11423 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 4:42 pm to
I got nothing....
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 4:45 pm to
I like mine it is a Sony, paid 100.00 for it, and for my bedroom it makes the walls rattle when I put it on surround sound
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

I got nothing....



I can't believe you spent $100,000+ on just a 2.0 setup. Just think of the 7.1 setup you could've had for 1/80 the price. To boot, don't you have 3 separate 2.0 rigs? Why wouldn't you just have one 6.0 rig?



All in jest, of course.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:57 pm to
I'll sit this soundbars thread out.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:20 pm to
I need a sound bar that isn't very long, I gt a plot in my entertainment system where I want it to go
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