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Brick Haley in an administrative role
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:17 am
if somehow he ends up staying on staff long term in this capacity can he still recruit for us like before? He was pretty good there for us.
By long term i mean through the next recruiting cycle at least.
By long term i mean through the next recruiting cycle at least.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 9:19 am
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:24 am to Palm Beach Tiger
There is a pending proposal to add an 11th FB coaching spot. It is kinda assumed that Brick will take that spot if still here. I believe that issue is coming up this spring with NCAA.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:32 am to Palm Beach Tiger
i think (big think) he can only recruit on campus. i'm not sure of the rules on phone calls/texts with recruits
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Can only recruit on campus, that's it, and he can't be at practice right now.
He can help put a game plan together with the rest of the staff -- where he'll be most vital.
That's under the current rules.
I only see Brick leaving for an NFL job.
If he can't get a DC job after being the highest paid defensive line coach in the country at LSU, then going anywhere else in the country wont help him get that coveted DC position.
He can help put a game plan together with the rest of the staff -- where he'll be most vital.
That's under the current rules.
I only see Brick leaving for an NFL job.
If he can't get a DC job after being the highest paid defensive line coach in the country at LSU, then going anywhere else in the country wont help him get that coveted DC position.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 9:41 am
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:40 am to MrWiseGuy
i still don't get why ensminger isn't in an admin role. anytime people discuss his value to the staff, it's off the field stuff
move ensminger to admin and hire jaluke
move ensminger to admin and hire jaluke
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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i still don't get why ensminger isn't in an admin role
Considering how little our TEs are used to pass catch, I wouldn't mind bringing in Mawae to coach TEs. :onlyslightlyjoking:
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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i still don't get why ensminger isn't in an admin role. anytime people discuss his value to the staff, it's off the field stuff
move ensminger to admin and hire jaluke
I would defend Ensminger but it wouldn't be objective because I'm close with people who have friendships with him.
I also defended Stud because of relationships. And I'll still say that I don't see where the improvement has been made. Hopefully that changes.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 10:01 am
Posted on 1/18/15 at 10:00 am to MrWiseGuy
this isn't a criticism of ensminger so no defense is needed. we have a finite availability of coaching spots for recruiting purposes. we have an infinite availability of coaching spots for film guys, gameplanners, talent identification, contact-building across the state with high schools, etc
basically, have the support coaching staff as "administrators" and have more recruiters as coaches so we can maximize our recruiting
i mean if JV can be on the sidelines during games, i presume admins can be on the sidelines during games
basically, have the support coaching staff as "administrators" and have more recruiters as coaches so we can maximize our recruiting
i mean if JV can be on the sidelines during games, i presume admins can be on the sidelines during games
Posted on 1/18/15 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Ensminger is part of the offensive communication on the sidelines. I know, I laugh at it sometimes too. It has improved however. So he needs a coach title.
i still don't get why ensminger isn't in an admin role. anytime people discuss his value to the staff, it's off the field stuff
move ensminger to admin and hire jaluke
Ensminger is quite valuable in recruiting, and not just TE's. He's not setting the world on fire but it takes all levels and he's one of 'em.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:35 am to MrWiseGuy
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I also defended Stud because of relationships. And I'll still say that I don't see where the improvement has been made. Hopefully that changes.
Hmmm, let's see. Stud signed 3 OL in 2013 and 2 OL in 2014 (essentially that was still his recruiting class). 5 OL in 2 years. Grimes comes in and signs JUCO Domond and looks like he will sign either 4 or 5 OL in this class...and not just fillers either...good solid players apparently.
So yeah, I'll take Grimes doing the work in 1 class that Studrawa did in 2 classes...not to mention the guys that Studrawa let get away to begin with. Grimes is a huge step up in both recruiting and his putting guys into the pros speaks for itself.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:17 pm to EyeoftheTiger 2015
You think Grimes is responsible for George Brown.
That's so cute.
And Maea Teuehema?
Teuehema was all your boy Ensminger's doing.
I could have gotten Adrian Magee to commit to LSU.
That's so cute.
And Maea Teuehema?
Teuehema was all your boy Ensminger's doing.
I could have gotten Adrian Magee to commit to LSU.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:25 pm to MrWiseGuy
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I would defend Ensminger but it wouldn't be objective because I'm close with people who have friendships with him.
I also defended Stud because of relationships. And I'll still say that I don't see where the improvement has been made. Hopefully that changes.
How can you not give an objective opinion on these people and their contribution or lack there of for the program?
You are anonymous here, so your affiliations shouldn't matter.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:27 pm to AnotherRound
because I'd be biased and only know his side.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:51 pm to MrWiseGuy
I'd like to hear your side, bias and all. Always interesting to get a view from the inside, so to speak. If you change your mind of course
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:08 pm to MrWiseGuy
What is absolutely naive is that you don't think a POSITION coach is ultimately what makes the difference. I didn't say Grimes recruited all those players, genius. I said that Grimes IS responsible for those guys agreeing to sign with LSU. He is! I may be cute, but you are little more than a football virgin if you think Studrawa would have gotten all those guys. His years of undersigning OL proves I'm right
So go follow curling or something! Football is obviously above your pay grade, Einstein!
So go follow curling or something! Football is obviously above your pay grade, Einstein!
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:28 pm to MrWiseGuy
quote:I think I see some improvements. Guy above points out one and that's sheer numbers. I think that has a lot to do with just being active and energetic... and a little bit with not having multiple key roles (like OC & OL).
I also defended Stud because of relationships. And I'll still say that I don't see where the improvement has been made. Hopefully that changes.
But in all this, as it relates to recruiting, the position coach does have a key role now matter who's doing the recruiting and/or talking. And that is evaluations. That position coach has to say who to go after and who is priority. So even if Ensminger is the recruiter, a Grimes/Stud has to invest the time AND correctly identify the most coveted to get the ball rolling.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:44 pm to I20goon
There's no point in me posting something argumentative.
They're Tigers, and that's all that matters.
They're Tigers, and that's all that matters.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:47 pm to MrWiseGuy
Grimes was responsible for Brown. Brown was the first OL he offered when he got to LSU and he stayed on him all year. May have had some help but all recruits are recruited by more than one recruiter on the staff. At LSU the whole staff recruits these kids especially on campus. That's where Brick and Austin Thomas can be greatly helpful. Definitely doesn't hurt our efforts having Brick involved in some capacity.
Ensiminger is very involved in all things recruiting. He's the one with the most contacts in the hs coaching community. Also helps greatly on the sidelines during cames. He's not the knockout recruiter that O and Frank are but he's valuable overall. Sure we could hire some young hungry recruiter but that may hurt the on field product during games. He's trusted by our staff and team. Good enough for me. Plus he gets a pass for the Teuhumas. He was very important in getting them. Without him we probably don't get them
Ensiminger is very involved in all things recruiting. He's the one with the most contacts in the hs coaching community. Also helps greatly on the sidelines during cames. He's not the knockout recruiter that O and Frank are but he's valuable overall. Sure we could hire some young hungry recruiter but that may hurt the on field product during games. He's trusted by our staff and team. Good enough for me. Plus he gets a pass for the Teuhumas. He was very important in getting them. Without him we probably don't get them
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ensminger is a much better recruiter than he gets credit for. Still, an admin role for him would not hurt this staff.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:58 pm to AnotherRound
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You are anonymous here, so your affiliations shouldn't matter.
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