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Hire makes no sense

Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:57 am
Posted by foghat
Dallas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:57 am
Why hire Steele?
Steele’s longest-serving tenure as a coordinator came at Clemson. His three Clemson teams ranked 12th in 2009, 19th in 2010 and 71st in 2011 in total defense.

These numbers aren't stellar. They might as well have just promoted Haley.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:58 am to
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His three Clemson teams ranked 12th in 2009, 19th in 2010


I mean...these are not horrible
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:00 am to
Lol

Our new D coordinator Kevin Steele, resume: Not horrible.
Posted by foghat
Dallas
Member since Sep 2006
926 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:01 am to
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I mean...these are not horrible


They got worse every season. Aren't they supposed to get better??? And they played in a weak ACC.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:02 am to
you would think that the way the board is melting that his defense was horrible every year


Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:03 am to
his 2010 defense was damn near identical to Chavis' stat wise.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53730 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:03 am to
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Why hire Steele?


Great recruiter, great teacher, Miles thinks to think he is a better fit here than previous stops. Time will tell.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:04 am to
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you would think that the way the board is melting that his defense was horrible every year

They certainly weren't great. It's a what have you done for me lately world. It's pretty sad that we have to pick at whether or not he was demoted or not.


He's a "meh" hire.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 8:05 am
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56001 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:05 am to
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Why hire Steele?


recruiting is a huge plus.

he fits into our system

I hear he knows our players.

Throughout his history as a DC with one exception he has had good defenses none of them are great sure, but I don't think Smart could have a great defense at Clemson.

Give the guy time. He isn't a home run hire as many people were hoping for, but he isn't going to be responsible for the downfall of our defense.

Rumor has it that we are about to bring in BeBe

That would be one scary three headed recruiting monster.
Posted by luvdatigahs
Alameda, CA
Member since Sep 2008
3012 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:05 am to
Doesn't matter if his defense gets worse every year, probably won't be around that long. Miles is out if he keeps underachieving, and a new HC and coordinators come in.
Posted by foghat
Dallas
Member since Sep 2006
926 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:05 am to
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his 2010 defense was damn near identical to Chavis' stat wise.


SEC vs ACC???? I don't think they compare.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53730 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:05 am to
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you would think that the way the board is melting that his defense was horrible every year


Peoples, especially on TigerDroppings, are stupid. They wanted Ellis Johnson in 2008, thought Chavis was washed up and that spread offenses had passed him by.

I pay very little attention to people on here and generally speaking, if my opinion falls in line with the majority; I start to get a little worried.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:06 am to
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They got worse every season


eh 12 to 19 is hardly a drop off

obviously the last season is alarming, but I have no idea what Clemson lost that year or anything

I know everyone freaks out about the WVU game, but shite, LSU gave up a ton of yards that year to WVU too, and the Auburn could have easily put up 70 on LSU this year

Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22233 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:07 am to
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Steele’s longest-serving tenure as a coordinator came at Clemson. His three Clemson teams ranked 12th in 2009, 19th in 2010 and 71st in 2011 in total defense.
Yes - but it fits nicely into the current football culture. Don't want to rock the boat, you know.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 8:10 am
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:08 am to
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His three Clemson teams ranked 12th in 2009, 19th in 2010 and 71st in 2011 in total defense.


Where is it written he was 12th in 2009?

Clemson gave up 20.4 pts a game in 2009.
They were 20th on yards per game.
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:12 am to
I've tried to make sense of the hire and I think this hire was due to the logjam of position coaches currently on staff.

I think the bigger candidates want to run the whole show and bring with them who they want. Rumor was Pendergrast wanted this.

So we all know Les doesn't like to fire people even when they struggle at doing their job, but how do you fire people that are doing good (Raymond) just to get one man?

I believe les knew he wasn't going to fire people so he had to get a DC that coached LBs in case the rest of his staff remained in tact due to buyouts and what not.

That right there will lower a candidate pool, but stuff like that wouldn't come out until a face to face interview.

So les had to make the hire so it would be the right fit for coaches by position. Plus he wanted a recruiter.

Whether I agree or disagree with les is not the issue. I'm just trying to come up with ways where it would make sense.
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9754 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:12 am to
So 2 of 3 seasons he had a top 20 defense?
Posted by foghat
Dallas
Member since Sep 2006
926 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:14 am to
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I think the bigger candidates want to run the whole show and bring with them who they want. Rumor was Pendergrast wanted this.

So we all know Les doesn't like to fire people even when they struggle at doing their job, but how do you fire people that are doing good (Raymond) just to get one man?


Why not just promote Haley then???
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22233 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:14 am to
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Where is it written he was 12th in 2009?

Clemson gave up 20.4 pts a game in 2009.
They were 20th on yards per game.
LINK
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4740 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:17 am to
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12th in 2009, 19th in 2010


These aren't bad numbers...and he did it at Clemson.

We have way better talent for him to work with. We will be fine with Steele, everyone just needs to give him a chance.

Most people hating on him are just being sheeps to the moment because it is the popular chicken little thing to do.
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