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re: Is Quincy Pondexter any good?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:46 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:46 pm to RonBurgundy
Quincy just tweeted from the game in memphis. I'm guessing he will join the team tomorrow in Boston and probably play in Detroit.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:14 pm to DeionDeion
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was that all RTR said about him?
I've written a couple of things. LINK LINK LINK LINK
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And I know everyone has been saying that QPon is a good defender but do we have anything concrete to back up that claim?
I don't have anything concrete to back it up, but he passes the eye test in the defensive department. One thing I love about him is when he plays guys like Harden or Kobe that like to bring the ball up the court he will hound them the length of the court.
He's not the best off the ball defender because he gets caught ball watching occasionally, but he is very solid on ball defender.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:17 pm to RTR America
You had Cunningham for a while too, is Pondexter in the same ball park as a bench player?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:22 pm to TigerinATL
I'd say when Pondexter is knocking down 3's and playing within himself he is a much better option, but Cunningham's performances were always way more consistent.
Cunningham played more small ball 4 for us though iirc because we still had Rudy Gay when he was here.
Cunningham played more small ball 4 for us though iirc because we still had Rudy Gay when he was here.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:43 pm to RTR America
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RTR
Thanks man thats all good stuff...its not much but its seems he makes us better so ill take it
little victories man
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:00 am to GynoSandberg
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we are probably stuck with him now.
If he never makes a basket I don't care. He can play defense and that is exactly what we need. We can score, and we will get better offensively as EG gets his legs, Ryno starts shooting his average, and the team continues to gel. What we don't have is enough defense.
Adding QPon gives us better on ball defense, something we need. We have Jrue who can guard the perimeter, and AD who can leak out and help. We have DC who can offer some legit D, and then we have...
If he never scores a point, but can provide defense and second chance opportunities, he is a huge upgrade over Rivers.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:21 am to GynoSandberg
I'm not as down on this as some. IF he can get back to 12/13 (only played 900 minutes since) form its fine. The Pelicans have been so bad on the wing that I'll praise mere competence. The $ doesn't change too much in my mind, but I could be way off.
The larger question is why not throw Salmons $ on one of the other cheap wings this summer? Why sign Jimmer over a wing? Not doing more on the wing, even if it's just a guy like Wes Johnson, is baffling. It's not like Pondexter has been better than the cheap targets. Everyone saw this problem coming after the summer moves.
As it stands the best wing on the roster is a guy (and he's been good for them) they picked up off the street a month into the season that isn't really a wing.
The larger question is why not throw Salmons $ on one of the other cheap wings this summer? Why sign Jimmer over a wing? Not doing more on the wing, even if it's just a guy like Wes Johnson, is baffling. It's not like Pondexter has been better than the cheap targets. Everyone saw this problem coming after the summer moves.
As it stands the best wing on the roster is a guy (and he's been good for them) they picked up off the street a month into the season that isn't really a wing.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:44 am to corndeaux
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The larger question is why not throw Salmons $ on one of the other cheap wings this summer? Why sign Jimmer over a wing? Not doing more on the wing, even if it's just a guy like Wes Johnson, is baffling. It's not like Pondexter has been better than the cheap targets. Everyone saw this problem coming after the summer moves.
I don't mind the trade for Pondexter at all but I certainly agree with this.
Did they think they would get more out of Miller? He had shown nothing up to that point so if that's the case it was a bad gamble. Either way the plan for the wing is still a bit baffling. I understand we could likely get Pondexter's production for the minimum in the off season but FO knew they needed something this season if they want to make a run.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:57 am to corndeaux
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The larger question is why not throw Salmons $ on one of the other cheap wings this summer? Why sign Jimmer over a wing?
They had faith in guys they shouldn't have to play roles bigger than their talent was suited for. I think it's a fairly big miscalculation and even more reason for a playoffs or bust mentality for Demps and Monty. Let's say we get competent play from QPon and shifting Tyreke to the 2nd unit works out as well as it did against Memphis and they win 49 games and just miss the playoffs. I don't think we should reward them for figuring out halfway into the season what the average fan seemed to know going into the season.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:39 am to TigerinATL
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I don't think we should reward them for figuring out halfway into the season what the average fan seemed to know going into the season.
+1
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:52 am to corndeaux
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Not doing more on the wing, even if it's just a guy like Wes Johnson, is baffling.
It really made zero sense, but like ATL said, they had faith in the wrong guys. I would have rather given Wes Johnson, CDR, Jordan Hamilton a shot rather than Darius Miller or Salmons.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:08 am to mm2316
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really made zero sense, but like ATL said, they had faith in the wrong guys. I would have rather given Wes Johnson, CDR, Jordan Hamilton a shot rather than Darius Miller or Salmons.
I think they really had faith in playing Tyreke for big minutes at the SF position. I'm glad it seems that they are moving away from that idea now, and are playing him at guard more. Hopefully Dante and Qpon can log the majority of the SF minutes and play effective defense/hit open shots.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:12 am to Epic Cajun
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I'm glad it seems that they are moving away from that idea now, and are playing him at guard more
Agreed. I know a lot of people are quick to point to Tyreke's splits last season for coming off the bench vs. starting, but he really does have a greater impact on the game coming off the bench and imposing his will against the other team's bench. Hopefully his role stays that way.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:17 am to mm2316
This is ideal as long as he still gets starter mins IMO. The problem with this last season was he was playing around 25 mpg instead of 30+
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:21 am to STEVED00
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This is ideal as long as he still gets starter mins IMO. The problem with this last season was he was playing around 25 mpg instead of 30+
Good point.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:50 am to TigerinATL
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If he works out it's a good move
Ahhh so if Q-Pon is good it was a good move. Great opinion! Thanks for sharing that with us!
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:33 am to TheJruth
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Ahhh so if Q-Pon is good it was a good move. Great opinion! Thanks for sharing that with us!
The entire point of this thread is I don't have enough data to form a good opinion. Thus the question mark in the thread title and hoping others could contribute information on whether QPon was good.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:09 am to TigerinATL
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"The New Orleans Pelicans are thrilled to welcome back a high character person like Quincy Pondexter to our organization, said Dell Demps, General Manager of the Pelicans. "Quincy is a two-way player, a multi-position defender that will add toughness along with an offensive skill set that we anticipate will help the Pelicans win games."
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