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OT Handymen - Pine or Oak Stairs?

Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:16 pm
We are having a guy rip up the carpet on our stairs (15 steps). There is pine underneath and the original idea was to finish/sand the pine.

This morning, he told my wife that he could put oak on top for an additional $300. He says it looks better and is less likely to get damaged. He did my neighbors' with just the pine and they looked good, although I didn't really examine them.

Thoughts? Is getting oak on top worth it?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:17 pm to
oak is harder
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6698 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:18 pm to
Wife INSISTED on pine floors. They are beat to shite now. Next house will be oak.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Thoughts? Is getting oak on top worth it?

personal preference really, oak is definitely harder than pine, I've got oak stairs but I've had pine before also, both looked good to me
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

oak is harder

And has a better grain
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24344 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:21 pm to
OP, just curious, what is this running you?
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

OP, just curious, what is this running you?


He's charging us $1K for th stairs (just ripping up the carpet, installing painted risers on each step and finishing the pine). The additional $300 is to put oak on top of each step.

He also quoted us an additional $500 to install hardwoods on the small landing at the top of the stairs (about 100 sf)

ETA: thanks for the responses so far everyone! OT never lets me down

I'm leaning oak with 5 kids, 4 of whom are walking/running/clumsily carrying stuff.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:25 pm to
Only answer here is oak. I have oak stairs in my house and they take a lot of punishment and still look great
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Thoughts? Is getting oak on top worth it?



If you have or are planning to have kids replace the carpet. If not go with the oak and have it stained to taste. I repeat if you have or are planning to have children replace the carpet. I made this mistake and had the carpet put back down in under one month.
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:40 pm to
How is he gonna finish the edge, if he is putting it in "top of the pine" ?

Why not just rip the treads off, and replace with the oak ?
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:40 pm to
Man I hear you on the kids...5 kids, new construction, we moved in 10 months ago and the carpet is done. The piling is barely noticeable. It's ridiculous.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

How is he gonna finish the edge, if he is putting it in "top of the pine" ?

Why not just rip the treads off, and replace with the oak ?


That could be what he's doing. My wife talked to him and she texted me to post and see what the OT has to say about pine vs oak. I'll get the details on how he's going to do it this evening.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

That could be what he's doing. My wife talked to him and she texted me to post and see what the OT has to say about pine vs oak. I'll get the details on how he's going to do it this evening.


probably planning on gluing on a thin veneer
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:45 pm to
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probably planning on gluing on a thin veneer


That sounds OK to me. Are there any downsides (versus replacing the treads completely)?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

My wife talked to him and she texted me to post and see what the OT has to say





Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:48 pm to
$300 is a small investment to have durable flooring. You'll regret the pine in 3 months when you see how quickly it gets beat up.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:48 pm to
If my wife is nothing else, she's an ace at identifying quality sources of information
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

. Are there any downsides (versus replacing the treads completely)?



i would think that it would bump the cost up considerably, more material and depending on how your stiles are mounted, could add a lot of labor
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89475 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:50 pm to
Pine has its uses, but battleship decks were made out of oak, brah - that's all I'm saying.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:57 pm to
If you're going to do this, do it right, and either refinish the pine, or tear it out and install new treads.

A solid oak tread with a finger-jointed, paint-grade real wood riser is going to run you no less than fifty dollars per stair, materials only, and that is a good deal.

My guess is that he is using MDF for the risers, and 3/8" oak veneer for the tread overlay. Hot garbage.
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