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Dish to offer web TV with $20/month for ESPN (and more)

Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:17 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:17 pm
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This could be a game changer if they do it right. The great part is that you can get access with Roku, Amazon Fire TV, and a few other devices. You won't need any dish.

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Another major domino has fallen for cord cutters.

The first real Internet-only television subscription package has been introduced by DISH Network, marking an important milestone in the transition of TV from cable to the web.

DISH's service, called Sling TV, offers customers $20-a-month option for a limited batch of channels. It is the first real bundle of TV available online without a cable subscription, and includes ESPN — an important channel for its live and exclusive sports content.

The service will be available in the first quarter of 2015, the company said. It will only be for U.S customers, and can only be streamed on one device at a time.

DISH had reportedly been in talks with various content companies for rights to build a standalone streaming television package. Until now, most streaming TV had only been available to customers that had a preexisting cable subscription. Now, cord cutters will be able to subscribe to DISH's new offering — called Sling TV — without paying for a cable package. The package also includes TNT, TBS, CNN, Food Network, the Travel Channel, HGTV, Adult Swim, Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, ABC Family and CNN.

The service will be available on some connected devices including Roku box, the Kindle Fire TV and some Smart TVs, but not on the Apple TV. Re/code's story was confirmed by DISH via press release.

"Sling TV provides a viable alternative for live television to the millennial audience,” said Joseph P. Clayton, DISH CEO, in the press release. "This service gives millions of consumers a new consideration for pay-TV; Sling TV fills a void for an underserved audience."

The inclusion of ESPN is particularly big. ESPN is the king among cable channels, receiving $6.04 per subscriber, according to SNL Kagan. TNT is the next highest at $1.48. ESPN's popularity allows it to demand that premium, which in turn gives it the kind of money to go after pricey rights to live sports. It recently inked a massive deal with the NBA. ESPN is also exploring its own standalone web offering, although the current plan is to test the waters with a service that streams NBA basketball games.

Sling TV will also include add-on programming for $5 per month, including a "kids Extra" with channels like Disney Junior, a "News & Info Extra) with HLN and Bloomberg TV and a "Sports Extra," the channels of which were not named. DISH said more channels will be added throughout 2015. Sling TV will not include broadcast channels.

A streaming alternative to cable subscriptions has been the dream of consumers tired of paying oversized cable bills for packages of hundreds of channels. A Nielsen study found that cable subscribers receive an average of 189 channels, only 17 of which they watch. While Sling TV is not the a la carte option some had hoped for, its $20 price tag is well below the average U.S. household cable bill of $64.41. Cable costs have risen steadily as well, growing four times faster than inflation, according to a study from the Federal Communications Commission.

On the other hand, many analysts and industry watchers have pointed out that a la carte offerings can add up fast. If a customer was to go for Sling TV ($20/month) plus HBO Go's upcoming online offer (let's say $15/month), plus Netflix ($9/month) and Hulu ($8/month), the bill comes to about $52.

Still, the introduction of such a deal — and the willingness of companies like ESPN to agree to terms for the rights — indicates growing momentum for the cord-cutting crowd. In 2014, HBO announced its upcoming streaming service, as did CBS — the first broadcaster to do so. Now, only five days into 2015, customers have an option that had previously only been theorized as happening some day.

The move puts DISH at the forefront of the web TV market, ahead of competitors such as DirecTV, Comcast and Time Warner Cable. It is an important market for the company, particularly after a 2014 that included declines in TV subscribers as well as profit.

This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:19 pm to
ESPN & ESPN2..but no ESPNU/ESPN360 or SEC derivatives?
Posted by lsugolfredman
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:20 pm to
game changer
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:24 pm to
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game changer


ISPs will throttle it down to for $$$ from DISH until its price is above Uverse, Xfinity, etc.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:24 pm to
ooo I wanna try

couple that with an antenna. boom
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:25 pm to
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schexyoung


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Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:26 pm to
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ESPN & ESPN2..but no ESPNU/ESPN360 or SEC derivatives?


It doesn't get that specific in the article. If it was just ESPN and ESPN2 then that would kind of suck. What's keeping many from dropping cable is not having WatchESPN. I already get the ESPN and ESPN2 stuff for free on my xbox.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:28 pm to
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It doesn't get that specific in the article. If it was just ESPN and ESPN2 then that would kind of suck. What's keeping many from dropping cable is not having WatchESPN. I already get the ESPN and ESPN2 stuff for free on my xbox.


i combed it carefully and noticed they very specficially said only 'espn and espn2' which makes me think for $20 you're not getting the full ESPN experience.

i agree, that would suck if you have to start adding tiers to get the rest of that.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:32 pm to
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i combed it carefully and noticed they very specficially said only 'espn and espn2' which makes me think for $20 you're not getting the full ESPN experience.


I don't see that in the article. Can you copy and paste?

Once again, it wouldn't make any sense to offer that kind of deal when most people already get ESPN and ESPN2 through their xbox, PS4, roku, amazon fire tv, etc.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:33 pm to
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I don't see that in the article. Can you copy and paste?



sorry, there are several articles about this today, it was a different source:

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Sling TV will only be available in the US, where it's expected to launch "within the The good news is that Sling TV has managed to secure a myriad of big-name channels as part of its over-the-top service, including ESPN, ESPN2, CNN, TBS, TNT, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, Travel Channel, Food Network, ABC Family, HGTV, Disney Channel and Maker -- all of which are going to be part of the basic, $20-per-month package.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:43 pm to
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It will only be for U.S customers, and can only be streamed on one device at a time.


Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:50 pm to
good in theory but anyone who thinks this is a game changer is grossly mistaken
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:54 pm to
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good in theory but anyone who thinks this is a game changer is grossly mistaken


It's a huge step in the right direction.
Posted by TK421
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Once again, it wouldn't make any sense to offer that kind of deal when most people already get ESPN and ESPN2 through their xbox, PS4, roku, amazon fire tv, etc.


Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but you only get those channels on a device by having a subscription to those channels to begin with (or having someones else's info).
Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:02 pm to
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good in theory but anyone who thinks this is a game changer is grossly mistaken


this is a game changer if it actually includes ESPN in it, which I sorta doubt. If I can get ESPN and ESPN2, I can cover 90%+ of my sports requiremetns.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:04 pm to
I'm able to view ESPN and espn2 content with just Xbox live and don't need to log in with my cable subscription. If I want to watch all the other content, I need to login with my cable provider.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:34 pm to
Game changer is a bit strong. It can be viewed as one if it can get probably 5 mil+ subscribers in the first 6 months or so. That's probably a bit high.

Did they mention commercials? I don't see it, but I assume this is without commercials? If it includes commercials that price should be cut by about 5 bucks. Then it's a steal.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:43 pm to
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Did they mention commercials? I don't see it, but I assume this is without commercials? If it includes commercials that price should be cut by about 5 bucks. Then it's a steal.




yea right

you aint gonna ever get live programming sans commercials.
Posted by Badman
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:41 pm to
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ESPN is the king among cable channels, receiving $6.04 per subscriber


Does anyone know where we can see a complete list of all channels?
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