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Saw the third Hobbit... (spoilers)
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:13 pm
Anyone a little disappointed they killed off Smaug in the first 5 minutes? Thought he was teh best part of all of the Hobbit movies. They nailed his character.
Also, I haven't read the book in a long time, but the way the Eagles (and 5 seconds of Beorn) killed the last army seemed really cheap to me.
Loved the battles between Borg/Legolas (yes despite all the ridiculous shite that happened on that fallen tower) and Thorin/Azog.
Did not love the ending to the Tauriel/Kili romance. shite, if you're gonna go that far with a Dwarf/Elf relationship (out of all things in LOTR), just fricking marry them.
Did not understand the last communication between Thranduil/Legolas. Wasn't the Hobbit 50-60 years before FOTR? What the frick does Legolas do for 50-60 years (despite the fact I dont think he was ever involved in the Hobbit book).
I get that the Hobbit was much more of a fairy tale-ish type of story compared to LOTR (hence the crazy action scenes particularly the 2nd/3rd movies), but I just feel a little let down by the trilogy overall.
Maybe thats just compared to my feelings about the LOTR trilogy because I thought they did a really great job with those (despite my issues with Return of the King).
Also, I haven't read the book in a long time, but the way the Eagles (and 5 seconds of Beorn) killed the last army seemed really cheap to me.
Loved the battles between Borg/Legolas (yes despite all the ridiculous shite that happened on that fallen tower) and Thorin/Azog.
Did not love the ending to the Tauriel/Kili romance. shite, if you're gonna go that far with a Dwarf/Elf relationship (out of all things in LOTR), just fricking marry them.
Did not understand the last communication between Thranduil/Legolas. Wasn't the Hobbit 50-60 years before FOTR? What the frick does Legolas do for 50-60 years (despite the fact I dont think he was ever involved in the Hobbit book).
I get that the Hobbit was much more of a fairy tale-ish type of story compared to LOTR (hence the crazy action scenes particularly the 2nd/3rd movies), but I just feel a little let down by the trilogy overall.
Maybe thats just compared to my feelings about the LOTR trilogy because I thought they did a really great job with those (despite my issues with Return of the King).
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:17 pm to boXerrumble
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the Eagles
They could've defeated Sauron's army single handedly apparantely. Hell why didn't Frodo just jump on one of their backs and drop the fricking ring into the fires or mordor? frick it. I hated the third movie, and felt like the whole hobbit series was a leech sucking money out of me. Bought fricking popcorn, cokes, hot chocolate for the kids in each movie. Cost a god damn fortune for that horse shite.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:18 pm to boXerrumble
Wasn't a fan of the trilogy
Gollum and Smaug were the best parts of the trilogy
Gollum and Smaug were the best parts of the trilogy
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:18 pm to boXerrumble
It should have been 2 movies. Easily could have removed an hour and a half of footage from the last 2 and made it one movie. Have the first one end when they escape from the Elves, and the second start at Laketown. That would have been the way to do it.
I am curious how it will hold up after doing a marathon though.
I am curious how it will hold up after doing a marathon though.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:24 pm to TomballTiger
You have to really, really want to like these movies for the amount of suspension of disbelief required to enjoy them.
Even when you apply the "science" of that reality, you have tons of coincidences and stretched logic to deal with.
Even when you apply the "science" of that reality, you have tons of coincidences and stretched logic to deal with.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:27 pm to boXerrumble
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Did not love the ending to the Tauriel/Kili romance. shite, if you're gonna go that far with a Dwarf/Elf relationship (out of all things in LOTR), just fricking marry them.
I kind of appreciated it more than I liked it. Really think that a elf/dwarf relationship was missing from Tolkein's mythos, and think Jackson made a good decision at least addressing it.
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Did not understand the last communication between Thranduil/Legolas. Wasn't the Hobbit 50-60 years before FOTR? What the frick does Legolas do for 50-60 years (despite the fact I dont think he was ever involved in the Hobbit book).
Guess he hangs out with Aragorn for a bit. He knows him personally before the events of Fellowship, so it makes sense. Plus even if he isn't mentioned in the book, I'm sure Legolas was at least present for the Battle of Five Armies. I don't see why he wouldn't be there given what happens in the books.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:27 pm to boXerrumble
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Did not understand the last communication between Thranduil/Legolas. Wasn't the Hobbit 50-60 years before FOTR? What the frick does Legolas do for 50-60 years (despite the fact I dont think he was ever involved in the Hobbit book).
If you go by the books, he was approximately 10 at the time. In the Two Towers he tells Eowyn that he is 87. That would put him closer to 20 or 30 at the time according to the movie. But in the book, if I recall correctly, from the time Frodo acquired the ring until the time he left the Shire 17 years had gone by.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:29 pm to OMLandshark
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It should have been 2 minutes. Easily could have removed an hour and a half of footage from the last 2 and made it one movie. Have the first one end when they escape from the Elves, and the second start at Laketown. That would have been the way to do it. I am curious how it will hold up after doing a marathon though.
The three movie format was just a money grab, the 2 would have been better. Smaug which was done great would have been more epic as opposed to merely appearing and dying in movie 3.
Sad these are over though, I've enjoyed seeing them on the big screen
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:35 pm to winner
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Sad these are over though, I've enjoyed seeing them on the big screen
I am too.
I really would like to see The Silmarillion done though.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:36 pm to boXerrumble
I liked it, but the elf dwarf romance thing was silly
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:38 pm to Thurber
Yeah, I don't get all the hate for the movie that I've been seeing on this board. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It most certainly wasn't perfect and
quote:but I was satisfied.
the elf dwarf romance thing was silly
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:43 pm to PillageUrVillage
I really can't wait to see some mega-fan edit down the movies to a 4 hour epic, and then it will be great.
And the thing that is frustrating is that any scene Jackson knows he can't afford to frick up (ie: Gollum and Smaug), he completely knocks it out of the park. I'm glad these films exist simply for those masterful scenes. He completely got Smaug and transferred him perfectly to the big screen (which I wasn't sure if he could do), and my favorite scene in the whole franchise may be when Bilbo spares Gollum.
He just does these scenes so well, but just goes so over-the-top in a Lucas sort of way with much of the rest of it. Granted I don't think its fair to compare these movies to the Star Was prequels. There is clear effort being out in by people who love the franchise, while the prequels were just a complete hack job with no emotion whatsoever. The Hobbit films are still good movies, they just aren't on the level of the original trilogy, although they do have scenes as good as any in the original trilogy. You can tell there was care put into this, but don't know why we needed a ridiculous number of CGI orcs and goblins. Azog and the Goblin King I'm fine with, but no other Orc or Goblin should have been CGI.
And the thing that is frustrating is that any scene Jackson knows he can't afford to frick up (ie: Gollum and Smaug), he completely knocks it out of the park. I'm glad these films exist simply for those masterful scenes. He completely got Smaug and transferred him perfectly to the big screen (which I wasn't sure if he could do), and my favorite scene in the whole franchise may be when Bilbo spares Gollum.
He just does these scenes so well, but just goes so over-the-top in a Lucas sort of way with much of the rest of it. Granted I don't think its fair to compare these movies to the Star Was prequels. There is clear effort being out in by people who love the franchise, while the prequels were just a complete hack job with no emotion whatsoever. The Hobbit films are still good movies, they just aren't on the level of the original trilogy, although they do have scenes as good as any in the original trilogy. You can tell there was care put into this, but don't know why we needed a ridiculous number of CGI orcs and goblins. Azog and the Goblin King I'm fine with, but no other Orc or Goblin should have been CGI.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:44 pm to PillageUrVillage
I agree it should have been two movies. This last one was a lot of special effect filler for far too long. I haven't read the books since high school and don't remember enough detail for the story line discrepancies to bother me.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:46 pm to PillageUrVillage
Yeah, I really enjoyed all of these three movies.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 12:57 pm to Thurber
Smaug dying wasn't even in the book. The story stayed with the Dwarves and Bilbo and they found out later that the dragon was killed by Bard
Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:03 pm to bamafan1001
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Smaug dying wasn't even in the book. The story stayed with the Dwarves and Bilbo and they found out later that the dragon was killed by Bard
Well, I think that's a scene they needed to show in the movies. The movie doesn't entirely come from Bilbo's POV like it does in the book, so it needed to be shown.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:20 pm to OMLandshark
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Azog and the Goblin King I'm fine with, but no other Orc or Goblin should have been CGI.
I don't understand why they had to make Dain mostly CGI.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 1:37 pm to boXerrumble
quote:
They could've defeated Sauron's army single handedly apparantely. Hell why didn't Frodo just jump on one of their backs and drop the fricking ring into the fires or mordor?
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 1:40 pm
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