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re: Men Ain't Boys -- Powerful new DVD coming out on black men & fatherhood

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Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10946 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:01 am to
It's cute when white people tell blacks what to feel.

You don't know. I get it. You want to be an expert on everything. I want to be an expert on everything, too. That's because I'm an a-hole. I want to be an expert on being a Kurd in Iraq. I want to be an expert on being white in Nigeria. I'm neither. I can guess, but I don't know, because I HAVENT frickING EXPERIENCED IT.

So, if you haven't experienced being black in America, kindly shut up.

I grew up without a father. He made lots of money. He wasn't deadbeat because he was poor. He was just an a-hole. The stories aren't always the same. Please diversify your worldview.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29371 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:53 am to
So, according to you, if anyone is not of a particular race, sex, religion or ethnicity, they cannot have an opinion or criticize them.

Good, now quit telling me I'm a racist privileged white male because you just don't understand, because you haven't fricking experienced it.

So if you haven't experienced being white in America, kindly STFU.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 3:55 am
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:48 am to
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There's a cultural issue there that's regurgitating every generation. Playing the victim
this along with wanting handouts and everything free. It's not just specific to one race either.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110476 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:47 am to
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Hmmm my parents got divorced when i was 4, and I haven't seen him since I was 8...I've never been arrested, no kids, 2 college degrees
Sweet sample size!

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110476 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:48 am to
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Black people in this day and age are generally afforded more opportunities than whites
Yikes
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110476 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:50 am to
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Good, now quit telling me I'm a racist privileged white male because you just don't understand, because you haven't fricking experienced it
Umm yea, the difference here is he didn't tell you any of that, not sure if you noticed.
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:16 am to
I don't see this as a black or white thing. Having a baby outside of marriage is just socially acceptable now. Look at "Teen Mom." Not one of those daddies is worth a shite, and they're all white. In the 60s, we had "Love Child" (never meant to be, scorned by society). In the 00s, we had "That's just my baby daddy." Unfortunately, it's just not frowned upon anymore to have a baby outside of wedlock. I am, however, happy to see something that indicts the men in the situation. We hear so much about single moms failing to properly raise a child, and yet rarely do we stop and say why was she a single mom? Was it by choice or did the dude check out? I'm sure sometimes it's trash being trash and choosing that way of life. But, all the single moms I know didn't choose to be so. Perhaps it is a result of feminism, but there are an awful lot of men nowadays who don't feel a sense of responsibility to the family.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16151 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:19 am to
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It's cute when white people tell blacks what to feel.

You don't know. I get it. You want to be an expert on everything. I want to be an expert on everything, too. That's because I'm an a-hole. I want to be an expert on being a Kurd in Iraq. I want to be an expert on being white in Nigeria. I'm neither. I can guess, but I don't know, because I HAVENT frickING EXPERIENCED IT.

So, if you haven't experienced being black in America, kindly shut up.

I grew up without a father. He made lots of money. He wasn't deadbeat because he was poor. He was just an a-hole. The stories aren't always the same. Please diversify your worldview.


Using this logic:

No Psychiatrists can treat mentally ill people unless they are ALSO mentally ill.

No speech therapists can help people with speech impediments unless they ALSO have a speech impediment.

No rape/abuse counsellors can help others in trauma (crisis) until they have FIRST been raped or abused.

Sound Principle Indeed!
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28710 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:28 am to
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Black people in this day and age are generally afforded more opportunities than whites.



You are full of shite.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:29 am to
Community leaders are a huge part of the problem because they scream about being victims 24/7 and will not ever advocate personal responsibility. I can get real about the problem, but it would upset a lot of people because the truth hurts

My parents got divorced when I was 3 and the only time I got to see my dad was when he'd come to town specifically to beat me. Should I blame the government?
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 7:32 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57453 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:33 am to
Oh? Considering I've seen all the program's first hand in the business world where underqualified black applicants were hired simply to fill a diversity quota.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:34 am to
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Fraud/abuse, same shite to me. Welfare should be a safety net, not a fricking cradle to grave hammock
Funny thing is that they get more money if their kids have "learning disabilities" like ADD, or if they don't score well on tests
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:42 am to
Nature vs Nurture
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:11 am to
This country's approach to social programs such as welfare, etc are as an abysmal of a failure as anything we've ever attempted.

Pubs won't do anything about it because their corporate whore partners want cheap labor. Dems won't do anything about it because they're afraid of losing votes.

It's leading to the rapid degradation of our nation and neither side has the nuts to do anything about it. Absolutely shameful.
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:23 am to
The amount of misinformation regarding SSI and disabilities astounds me. Nobody is getting rich off of this program. My son is permanently disabled and receives SSI. It's so little money every month, it doesn't even cover medicine or gas to and from doctors. It helps, but it's not something anyone can live on, especially if they have needs. But, it does surprise me how some people get it for things like asthma or ADD. It's not easy to get. Took us about a year until it was all said and done. They have to pull medical records and interview everyone multiple times. I'm not sure how someone can fake this. Also, the program has changed somehow since Obama took office. I'm not sure what rules have changed, but before my son received the exact same amount like clockwork every month. Now, it's much less and changes month to month. It's not something I even calculate into our budget because I never know what's going to happen from one month to the next. And my son has a well documented and significant disability.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110476 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:28 am to
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Oh? Considering I've seen all the program's first hand in the business world where underqualified black applicants were hired simply to fill a diversity quota
Sounds like there's a world of stuff you haven't seeen firsthand if you think black people, in general, are afforded more opportunities than white people.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:29 am to
It is pretty bad, but they know how to work the system almost perfectly
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:33 am to
I know people cheat. I just don't know how they do it in this circumstance. I do think they need to tighten up the criteria for "disability" but that won't happen because the disabilities community would be up in arms.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:34 am to
It comes down to socio economics

middle class/upper middle class suburban black families don't have these issues.

Hood rats will be hood rats white trash will be white trash.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110476 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:35 am to
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It comes down to socio economics

middle class/upper middle class suburban black families don't have these issues.

Hood rats will be hood rats white trash will be white trash
Almost every white/black issue is actually exactly what you said.
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