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re: When did the definition of creole change?

Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:03 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:03 am to
Looks like the definition has changed over the years and meant a little something different to different regions and the transformation of the definition happened at different paces in seperate geographical locations and at different time periods.... So I wouldn't call anyone "wrong", except for the idiots in the thread that were just firing from the hip and may have had no clue and thought creole was just a way of cooking.
Something like this isn't something where you get the best answer of a definition from a Webster dictionary.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:10 am to
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Looks like the definition has changed over the years and meant a little something different to different regions and the transformation of the definition happened at different paces in seperate geographical locations and at different time periods.... So I wouldn't call anyone "wrong", except for the idiots in the thread that were just firing from the hip and may have had no clue and thought creole was just a way of cooking.
Something like this isn't something where you get the best answer of a definition from a Webster dictionary.





This. My Mom's side of the family are white creoles. Her family has been planted here from the late 1700's. And yes, they have black creoles living around me that live on the Island side of the river. Pointe Coupee has a rich history when it comes to creoles. Kind of funny hearing a black person speak creole french.
Posted by DanTiger
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:39 am to
The original definition of a creole, as far as I know, was someone of French or spanish ancestry that was born in Louisiana/the new world.
Posted by Modern
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:00 am to
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All creole men
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:24 am to
It was. Creole comes from the Spanish term "criollo" which basically translates "those born in the colonies."
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:03 am to
When did the definition of terrific change?
Posted by RDOtiger
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:11 am to
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I thought it was always a mix of black and french


Me too...
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:26 am to
The definition of creole is a person who can trace direct lineage to one of the original Spanish or French colonists (i.e. not Cajuns by way of Canada or Islanos by way of the Canary Islands). Because Spanish and French often inter-married (or kept mistresses) with blacks far more often than did their Anglo counterparts, many many blacks (especially in Southwest LA, the River Parishes, and New Orleans) are creole. In fact, there are more black or mixed "creoles" than light skinned creoles due to the prevalence of such activities especially prior to the Louisiana Purchase.
Posted by mallardhank
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:36 am to
The term bogerlee was mentioned in an earlier post. I've heard this all my life and have never known what it is. Please define
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:47 am to
Creole has many definitions.

LINK
Posted by Dorothy
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:51 am to
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The term bogerlee was mentioned in an earlier post. I've heard this all my life and have never known what it is. Please define


I think it's actually " boogalee"... See this LINK.

quote:

A slang term, often derogatory, for a resident of coastal Louisiana of mixed European, Amerindian, and perhaps some African heritage. The group is noted for insularity and is distinct from the more famous and numerous Cajuns, Creoles and Islenos. Their nearly-lost pigdin language has elements of Chitimachi, Portugese and French, among others. The term 'calico' is often applied.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 8:57 am
Posted by mallardhank
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:07 am to
Dorothy
Thank you. I felt that it was a put down term. Heard it used often in a joking manner but not to the person in questions face.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:19 am to
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When I was in school, it meant a mix of Spanish and French.


You should question everything you've ever been taught.
Posted by Easy
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:13 pm to
Black and French is definitely the definition that I'm most familiar with. Or it could be black mixed with black, like Haitians. They speak creole after all.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:22 pm to
strange bump.

I guess you figured we needed a couple more purplehaze threads on the OT.
Posted by Mshargois3
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 5:23 pm to
Smh
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