re: How will Black "Outrage du Jour" Affect White Working Class attitutes & voting ?

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you're still trying to lump in other groups' voting numbers with blacks and that is not the case. no one votes for one party in the numbers that black folks do.

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Southern whites are pretty damn close, per 2012 exit polling.

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my question, as i know you would avoid, was what has the democratic party done to earn such loyalty from blacks? answer me that

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Maybe its not loyalty for dems, but avoidance of GOP. Something worth considering.

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so what are you admitting here?

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What I've always admitted, both parties suck

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So is groupthink bad or good, I'm confused? "Shameful" numbers are only "shameful" if you disagree with them, correct? Just say so, its ok.

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Which would be a better example of Groupthink?
The 93% of Black people that voted for Obama or the 59% of white people that voted for Romney?

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Something worth considering.

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why would they avoid the GOP? how about you spell that out instead of spouting hollow bullshite

What I want to know is does the op consider white working class voters important?

Because in 10 years they won't be compared to other social and economic classes.

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What I want to know is does the op consider white working class voters important?

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Of course they are important. If you don't think so ask Harry Reid. Or tell me they aren't important when Obama is trying to convince a Republican Senate to confirm a Leftist Fundamentalist to The Supreme Court a year from now.

To say otherwise is vapid. But I agree that the demographics are changing, but I will suggest they change in ways that NONE of us understand because it always unfolds in unanticipated ways. I think Hispanics and Asians will break with Democratic Party over time for numerous reasons. Families intermarry, old identities die, groups evolve politically over generations.

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Because in 10 years they won't be compared to other social and economic classes.

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Whites will still be the largest voting population

One of these is NOT like the others:

Nationally, Republicans running for seats in the U.S. House won 60 percent of the white vote, while Democrats won the backing of 89 percent of African-Americans and 62 percent of Hispanics.

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Kay Hagen got 33% of the white vote.

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Reputable surveys such as the American National Election Study and the Cooperative Campaign Analysis Project suggest that Barack Obama won 30 to 35 percent of Southern white votes in 2012. That would be roughly consistent with the performance of Democratic candidates in recent presidential elections — and roughly five times the share of the African American vote won by Mitt Romney

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Two "SEC" states with CNN exit polling:
Bama
MS

Either a) these are outliers or b) these numbers are wrong. But exit polls put out by others are similar.

The lowest % of the white vote in any Southern State I could find was Landrieu at 18%. That was an expression of white working class contempt for Obamacare as well as a really unexpected white working class FEMALE backlash. As well as the race essentially being decided and her white supporters staying home because it didn't really matter.

Other states were catastrophic for The Dems but nowhere near 82%.Edit-I know there was one other state with similar numbers, but I can't recall which one.

Do you understand that the white working class southern vote is useless to the national dem party?

That group - southern working whites - lacks the economic power (no Silicon Valley or finance), no production power (most plants are multinationals and while they might employ southerners it's board and executives aren't from there) or geopolitical power (no great agricultural production compared to the Midwest or over seas).

There aren't robust education programs (look where the powerful educate their own kids, especially powerful conservatives - it ain't the south.

Basically, who cares how southern whites vote? They are a fading group with not a lot of power and it's declining now and will continue.

I'm a conservative and the push to attract this group of constituents compare to others - gay fiscally conservatives with money and professional blacks (think Atlanta) - it's a joke.

They are also too poor to be good and reliable donors. The GOP is shopping at the dollar store.