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Pope Francis to issue edict on Climate Change, Greed, Social Inequality.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:35 am
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:35 am
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:40 am to LSU1NSEC
The schism begins
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:53 am to LSU1NSEC
They should stick to pedophilia coverups.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:00 am to LSU1NSEC
Francis has thrown away the script and is pissing off some very powerful people. 
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:08 am to LSU1NSEC
Is he going to give all of that Vatican gold to the poor?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:09 am to Jim Rockford
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In recent months, the pope has argued for a radical new financial and economic system to avoid human inequality and ecological devastation. In October he told a meeting of Latin American and Asian landless peasants and other social movements: “An economic system centred on the god of money needs to plunder nature to sustain the frenetic rhythm of consumption that is inherent to it.
a bold statement
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:18 am to LSU1NSEC
did little bit of research this morning. His encyclical will be on creation, so it will likely focus on God's creation. Which will include care for the environment.
What I expect to happen is people will read this encyclical and jump on a phrase or two take it way out of context and misrepresent the Pope.
The Pope may give some new perspectives on the Churches view of the environment but I don't expect any major changes. Even though likely the media will say that he is changing a lot.
What I expect to happen is people will read this encyclical and jump on a phrase or two take it way out of context and misrepresent the Pope.
The Pope may give some new perspectives on the Churches view of the environment but I don't expect any major changes. Even though likely the media will say that he is changing a lot.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:20 am to LSU1NSEC
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“An economic system centred on the god of money needs to plunder nature to sustain the frenetic rhythm of consumption that is inherent to it.
you guys may disagree but I think he has a good and accurate point here.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:28 am to catholictigerfan
Wow. A major world figure who's anti-abortion with conservative views on many things...
and preaches care for the environment along with other "liberal" themes.
I'm not converting to Catholicism anytime soon but I've agreed with pretty much everything Francis has said or done.
and preaches care for the environment along with other "liberal" themes.
I'm not converting to Catholicism anytime soon but I've agreed with pretty much everything Francis has said or done.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:30 am to TejasHorn
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TejasHorn
I have a lot of respect for Pope Francis so far.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:49 am to catholictigerfan
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you guys may disagree but I think he has a good and accurate point here.
Well, unless the pope has created an entirely new economic model, he has to pick between this consumption culture and a decline in poverty worldwide, or condemn to poverty the poor he wants to help in order to get real climate change through.
As of yet, there is not a middle ground between decreased productivity and real climate reforms imposed on an economy.
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The reason for such frenetic activity, says Bishop Marcelo Sorondo, chancellor of the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences,
Hmmm.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:45 am to Jim Rockford
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Francis has thrown away the script and is pissing off some very powerful people
OMG he's so dreamy
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:01 am to LSU1NSEC
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In October he told a meeting of Latin American and Asian landless peasants and other social movements: “An economic system centred on the god of money needs to plunder nature to sustain the frenetic rhythm of consumption that is inherent to it.
the "economic system centered on the god of money" fueled by "the frenetic rhythm of consumption" has lifted more people out of poverty in the past 15 years than the Catholic church has managed in its entire history.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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the "economic system centered on the god of money" fueled by "the frenetic rhythm of consumption" has lifted more people out of poverty in the past 15 years than the Catholic church has managed in its entire history.
Exactly the point I was getting at.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:07 am to CollegeFBRules
you know what kept India so poor for so long, post-colonialism? socialism
funny enough, who was a face of this policy? mother theresa, the Catholic icon who espoused the glory of poverty
funny enough, who was a face of this policy? mother theresa, the Catholic icon who espoused the glory of poverty
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:17 am to LSU1NSEC
To whom does he attribute greed?
1. People who pay their own way
or
2. People who feel entitled to the assets of #1
1. People who pay their own way
or
2. People who feel entitled to the assets of #1
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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mother theresa, the Catholic icon who espoused the glory of poverty
I'll bet you a dollar that she had a huge opposition to capitalism.
Why is it so many popular Catholics have a good chance of being opposed to capitalism?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:22 am to TigerTattle
"greed" is a very interesting topic. i've been thinking about trying to make a "one thread to rule them all" thread about greed, touching on economics, politics, philosophy, etc. it may be too much for one singular discussion (that may devolve into solely a religious discussion, which, on here, would defeat the purpose)
one hard part is that "greed" is a multi-layered concept. one layer is what you said. another is rationality and irrationality (irrational greed is often how it's presented, especially in movies on the subject)
one hard part is that "greed" is a multi-layered concept. one layer is what you said. another is rationality and irrationality (irrational greed is often how it's presented, especially in movies on the subject)
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:22 am to LSU1NSEC
This pope makes me want to leave the Catholic Church more and more. He is the worst pope in a long long time. Just stick to teaching the Gospel, not trying to influence governments with terrible, failed ideas like socialism and climate change.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Greed is one of the most innovative forces for good on the marketplace.
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