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re: The Miles hate is out of control for some people...

Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:58 am to
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:58 am to
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TigerGman


Name 5 Programs you would prefer to LSU over the last 5 years.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:00 pm to
We have equal or better talent than anyone else in the country. Yet we seem to be losing to teams with inferior talent, Arkansas 2014, Ole Miss 2013, Clemson 2012. We have also only won our own division once on the last 7 years. Yes, when talent is there and results are not, coaching is the problem. FYI only once in Miles' tenure has Alabama been our only loss.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:02 pm to
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Name 5 Programs you would prefer to LSU over the last 5 years.


I'd "prefer" for LSU to be able to compete for Championships again, not sweat out the Indy bowl or settle for Music City.





Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:06 pm to
Also not learning from past mistakes. QB issues/not having a QB ready to step in were the excuses in 2008-2010. Yet here we are in 2014 hearing the same excuses, when do you learn from that mistake.
Posted by winston318
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Saw some new wrinkles in the A&M game that gave us some more options


That's the problem. Why wait until the last week in the regular season to make changes?
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:10 pm to
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I'd "prefer" for LSU to be able to compete for Championships again, 


So name 5 Programs that have done that on an annual basis since 2010.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:12 pm to
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I think that people don't see or choose not to see that Les doesn't play the game. It's his job to put the team in position to win. 2012 LSU was in position to win at home. 2014 LSU was probably in a even better position to win. Les didn't kick the ball out of bounds on the kickoff. the 1/9 stuff, well LSU had no shot to win that game. Sorry. Not excuses. Just wasn't going to happen after the GOC. reality is sometimes you win. sometimes you don't. It's how you handle the don't(s) that really matter probably. I've seen LSU teams in my lifetime have a tough defeat and not recover. Generally this program under Les does.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:14 pm to
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We have equal or better talent than anyone else in the country. Yet we seem to be losing to teams with inferior talent, Ole Miss 2014, Auburn 2013, Oklahoma 2013, Texas A&M 2012. 


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Yes, when talent is there and results are not, coaching is the problem. FYI only once in Saban's' tenure has LSU been our only loss. 
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:14 pm to
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then we need to figure out what they're doing or figure out a way to perform at an even higher level.


Mercedes C-class for recruits moms is a start.

And as much as you chronic crybabies hate to admit it LSU is NOT mediocre. It is one of the top programs in the country. I am willing to bet that each of you that think are not the top 10 in anything you do, except bitch.

Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:15 pm to
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So name 5 Programs that have done that on an annual basis since 2010.

You seem obsessed with other programs.

I only care about one that hasn't even come close since 2011. And has in fact gotten unarguably WORSE every single year since being a national laughing stock in its last appearance in the SuperDome.
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:23 pm to
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This, "we're only second to Saban in the country" mindset is laughable. 


If you believe this, then you must have an idea of which program is second.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:25 pm to
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We can't even beat Bielema or Mullins right now.


Saban can't even beat Freeze right now
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:31 pm to
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I think that people don't see or choose not to see that Les doesn't play the game. It's his job to put the team in position to win. 2012 LSU was in position to win at home. 2014 LSU was probably in a even better position to win. Les didn't kick the ball out of bounds on the kickoff. the 1/9 stuff, well LSU had no shot to win that game. Sorry. Not excuses. Just wasn't going to happen after the GOC. reality is sometimes you win. sometimes you don't. It's how you handle the don't(s) that really matter probably. I've seen LSU teams in my lifetime have a tough defeat and not recover. Generally this program under Les does.


In 2012 when up 3 points late in the game, Les DECIDED not to trust his QB (who was having a great game) and instead play for a FG and a 6 point lead. Put the ball in the hands of your QB and stop playing conservative, PLAY TO WIN, not to "keep it close."
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:34 pm to
Are you an Alabama fan? I'm talking about LSU and competing within our division for a championship.

Alabama seems to have that figured out, we do not.
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Saban can't even beat Freeze right now


But he seems to be able to beat everyone else on his schedule and, with a first year starting QB, won the SEC and is playing for a National Championship.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted by semjase
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Put the ball in the hands of your QB and stop playing conservative, PLAY TO WIN, not to "keep it close."


So giving the ball to Hill on 3rd & 2 was a bad decision? Attempting a 4th down conversion was "keeping it close"?
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:41 pm to
It wasn't 3rd and 2, it more like 4 or 5. Yes running up the middle when Bama had 9 people in the box is conservative. Even Miles admitted after the game he should have given Mett a chance to make a play there. Miles is good at admitting what he should have done or "wanted to do" after the game.

If you are talking about the fake 55 yard FG, that was just stupid.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:42 pm to
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. Put the ball in the hands of your QB and stop playing conservative, PLAY TO WIN, not to "keep it close."


Kicking a FG when up by 3 is playing to win. You force them to score a TD and you have to TRUST YOUR DEFENSE at some point.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:45 pm to
We had two drives between scoring our last TD and Alabama scoring theirs. One resulted in a turnover on downs at the 24 yard line.

But I guess if Miles was "playing to win" we would have kicked a FG in that scenario.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:51 pm to
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Are you an Alabama fan? I'm talking about LSU and competing within our division for a championship.


I wasn't talking to you

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But he seems to be able to beat everyone else on his schedule and, with a first year starting QB, won the SEC and is playing for a National Championship


Good for him
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