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re: Atheists die sooner, are ill longer, and lead less happy lives than non-atheists

Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:34 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:34 am to
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with God, we are somehow supposed to prove he doesn't exist when the burden of proof is truly the other way around.
Which is why I feel no need to actually prove he doesn't exist.

Besides, there's actually more proof required than the mere existence or even possible existence of a God being.

Even if one could absolutely prove a God being existed, that wouldn't mean the God of the Bible was true.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:36 am to
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And as a poster above said, there is more evidence that Jesus existed than many of the other happenings in recorded history that are accepted as fact


False. Give me some links and examples if this is the case.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22391 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:38 am to
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Even if one could absolutely prove a God being existed, that wouldn't mean the God of the Bible was true.


I've always thought the leap between no God and God was far smaller than the leap between God and specific God that we know about.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:40 am to
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Well, while I agree speaking in absolutes is folly, God is as likely to be real as any other work of fiction that evidence doesn't exist to actually refute.


To be fair to the religious side, the God of the OT (not lounge) is made "more likely" when considering the at least superficial philosophical plausibility of monotheism.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:40 am to
I'd rather live my life believing in God and the teachings of the bible, .....die and find out it's not true than die and find out it was as an unbeliever.


That's just me though.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:43 am to
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You think the entire atheist argument is dependent on solely the creation story?


No, but it's what every one of these threads turn into. Go back to the OP and see where we are now.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:45 am to
What is this stupid meme in here about atheists being miserable people?

I guarantee you that most Agnostics/Atheists walking around are happy as hell and you don't even know they are that because they don't talk about it.

I'm more on the Agnostic side than anything, and I am as happy and fulfilled as could be.

Many Christians I know are dumb, some are bitter, some are smart. Just like anyone else.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:45 am to
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I'd rather live my life believing in God and the teachings of the bible, .....die and find out it's not true than die and find out it was as an unbeliever.


Not surprised. Most small minded religionists like to throw Pascal's Wager out there. So you are just hedging your bets like so many other Christians? That's pretty inspiring. Thanks but no thanks.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:47 am to
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And as a poster above said, there is more evidence that Jesus existed than many of the other happenings in recorded history that are accepted as fact
Evidence that he existed =/= evidence he was God.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:48 am to
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I'd rather live my life believing in God and the teachings of the bible, .....die and find out it's not true than die and find out it was as an unbeliever.

What's your point?

I'd rather believe too. But, I don't.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:48 am to
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I'd rather live my life believing in God and the teachings of the bible, .....die and find out it's not true than die and find out it was as an unbeliever.


Ah old Pascal's Wager. How devout of you.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:51 am to
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I'd rather live my life believing in God and the teachings of the bible, .....die and find out it's not true than die and find out it was as an unbeliever.




Newsflash...that's not faith.


Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:53 am to
You really don't understand the point?



The only other topic that gets more attention on this board is race topics.
For some reason it's really important for you "non believing" types to let others know you don't believe.
Whoopee, you want a cookie?
Bumper sticker? A special TD avatar?
It's like you boys are super proud of it and want everyone to know.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:55 am to
Do you explain all this faith you have in Christ to your kids?


Such a simpleton
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:55 am to
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Newsflash...that's not faith.



It's an added benefit to my already believing faith in the afterlife.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:56 am to
Do you see your kids?
Know their names?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:56 am to
If I live a good life and am a good person, a diety worth worshipping would welcome me into after life whether i did or didn't believe.

If not, I don't want to spend eternity with the frick anyways
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:58 am to
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It's an added benefit to my already believing faith in the afterlife.

And, it's irrelevant because one does not simply say, "hey, the possible end result of believing and being wrong is better than the possible end result of not believing and being wrong".

That's not how belief works. So, why even say it? Pascal's wager was absolutely retarded. I'm atheist and if I could wake up tomorrow REALLY believing in God and the afterlife, I'd take it.

But, I'd take it not because of the cool heaven shite but because the idea of something positive after death is obviously more attractive than the idea of nothing at all.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22391 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:58 am to
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For some reason it's really important for you "non believing" types to let others know you don't believe. Whoopee, you want a cookie? Bumper sticker? A special TD avatar? It's like you boys are super proud of it and want everyone to know.


What!? Haha.

This thread was a "look at us! We are doing it right! Atheist die younger!"

If you didn't feel the need to tell me (subtly or overtly) how good and right you were in comparison to me, I wouldn't (and often don't) feel the need to defend my opinion in direct contrast to yours.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:58 am to
I mean that's a logical way of looking at it but it's clearly not the answer and according to to the bible not true at all.

I'm just telling ya what it says.
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