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re: What's your take on prescription drug laws?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:23 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:23 pm to I B Freeman
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What standing does a consumer have to sue a drug company from misuse of a drug now???
lolz
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:27 pm to I B Freeman
You're obtuse. By choice. You are welcome to remain that way.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:27 pm to the808bass
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lolz
What are you laughing at?? Head down to the court house and sue Eli Lilly tomorrow for your use of their heart drug to cure your VD and let us know how you come out.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:28 pm to the808bass
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You're obtuse
You can't make an argument.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:30 pm to I B Freeman
Nasonex is not otc. Nasacort is.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:33 pm to tigerbait3488
Pain meds are 1000x more abused than antibiotics. In fact, I do not see that much abuse in antibiotics. Its all about the pain meds today and I monitor it closely.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:06 pm to tigerbait3488
Penicillin was discovered in 1928 and it is still effective against a lot of bugs today. So much for the dangers of super bugs.
Bacteria are going to mutate regardless of whether a doc gets paid $100 for writing a script and a guy has to take off work to see the doc.
It is a cruel policy to deny antibiotics across the counter to Americans.
Let me really mess with you boys that think you know best for people---Tomorrow the FDA should allow any drug approved for sale in any Western nation to be sold in the US and should accept the data submitted to those bureaucrats without further data generation.
The FDA should not be a barrier to entry to drug competition and drug availability in the US as it is today.
I can make the case we would be better off health wise and money wise without the FDA but that would really freak out 808.
How many people die every year because a life saving drug has not been approved for sale to US patients. How many people are denied to their choice of drugs? Should you not be allowed to make your own decision about life saving drugs??
Bacteria are going to mutate regardless of whether a doc gets paid $100 for writing a script and a guy has to take off work to see the doc.
It is a cruel policy to deny antibiotics across the counter to Americans.
Let me really mess with you boys that think you know best for people---Tomorrow the FDA should allow any drug approved for sale in any Western nation to be sold in the US and should accept the data submitted to those bureaucrats without further data generation.
The FDA should not be a barrier to entry to drug competition and drug availability in the US as it is today.
I can make the case we would be better off health wise and money wise without the FDA but that would really freak out 808.
How many people die every year because a life saving drug has not been approved for sale to US patients. How many people are denied to their choice of drugs? Should you not be allowed to make your own decision about life saving drugs??
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:19 pm to I B Freeman
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can make the case we would be better off health wise and money wise without the FDA but that would really freak out 808
No. It wouldn't. I think the FDA is largely a waste. I still also know you have precious little idea how the system currently operates.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:27 pm to I B Freeman
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How many people die every year because a life saving drug has not been approved for sale to US patients. How many people are denied to their choice of drugs? Should you not be allowed to make your own decision about life saving drugs??
Oddly enough, the pharma companies you denigrate a post earlier are the ones pushing for the ability of people to have access to experimental treatments here in the U.S. before they're fully approved by the FDA. I'm not sure it's as good an idea as you think it is. But as those bills get approved in state house after state house, I'll await your furious posts on the aftermath. I'm sure they'll come once you realize the issues.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:46 pm to tigerbait3488
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Nasonex is not otc. Nasacort is.
Found that out earlier. Still a corticosteroid, but a different one. We'll see how well it works.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:21 pm to TerryDawg03
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Still a corticosteroid, but a different one. We'll see how well it works.
I use it sometimes during fall. I dose a little higher than the recommended dosage. I am not a doctor. I think it's two sprays per nostril per day. I use it two sprays per nostril in the AM and 1 per nostril at night. It takes a couple days to get to the full benefit for me.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:27 pm to tigerbait3488
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Pain meds are 1000x more abused than antibiotics. In fact, I do not see that much abuse in antibiotics. Its all about the pain meds today and I monitor it closely.
Yeah, there's really no reason to abuse antibiotics. I don't ever see it being a real serious problem here, from a social angle.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:01 pm to the808bass
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the pharma companies you denigrate
I didn't denigrate any pharma companies.
They are simply throwing money at docs to prescribe their drugs.
Again you post nothing to support your argument.
We are simply suppose to take your word.
I have pointed out that very few people in the world have to have prescriptions to get antibiotics and yet we seem to be ok.
I have pointed out drugs now 80 years old are still very effective.
I have pointed out that poor people die because they cannot pay for a doctor visit to get a prescription.
I have pointed out that your implication that drug companies do not attempt to influence doctor decisions on drug prescriptions is crap.
I have shown you drug companies spent over $42 million on doctors and provider organizations in Louisiana alone.
You on the other hand have posted nothing of substance. You spout the same AMA lines about the dangers of super bugs if doctors are not paid to write prescriptions that have been used for 30 years or more.
You sir are the obtuse one in this debate.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:13 pm to I B Freeman
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I have pointed out that poor people die because they cannot pay for a doctor visit to get a prescription.
Link.
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your implication
I didn't imply pharma companies don't try to influence doctors. They do. Buying them a chicken lunch isn't a very effective bribe for a doctor. And they're not going to the Bahamas for med Ed no matter how many nonsense links you don't understand but post anyway.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:20 pm to the808bass
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I have pointed out that poor people die because they cannot pay for a doctor visit to get a prescription.
Link.
You need a link to prove to you that people die because they cannot afford a trip to the doc for a prescription?? How out of touch are you? Cruel, cold medical establish guy you are.
How many folks quit their high blood pressure medicine because they need to go to the doc for a new prescription? How many folks quit their heart meds etc. for the same reason? Thousands.
You got to know lots of pneumonia is out there that could have been prevented with a cheap antibiotic early.
There are a hell of a lot more deaths resulting from cost of prescription drugs and cost of the prescriptions themselves than there ever have been from super bugs.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:25 pm to TerryDawg03
Unfortunately there have been multiple occasions that I needed a specific drug and a doctor would not give it to me. Have had to call friends for help and requests to find a doctor to treat a sick person. It's unbelievable that these thugs are handing out prescriptions to kids like skittles for the "ADHD' epidemic but I can't get a doctor to prescribe me doxcyline for Lyme or malaria; not to mention they want you to come in a few times first before they give you meds, but I spend every month in a different city.
TLDR: It's a racket.
TLDR: It's a racket.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:32 pm to I B Freeman
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You need a link to prove to you that people die because they cannot afford a trip to the doc for a prescription?? How out of touch are you? Cruel, cold medical establish guy you are.
You could just say, "I don't have a link."
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:33 pm to Blue Velvet
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doxcyline for Lyme or malaria
How often you gettin malaria, man?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:40 pm to the808bass
Well it is obvious you are for the docs and I am for the consuming public.
No changing your mind.
It would be great to watch you convince someone in another country that they are better off having to pay a doctor for a prescription to buy a product they now getting over the counter--because--well because you say so. That's about the only argument you have. That would be hoot.
Merry Christmas.
No changing your mind.
It would be great to watch you convince someone in another country that they are better off having to pay a doctor for a prescription to buy a product they now getting over the counter--because--well because you say so. That's about the only argument you have. That would be hoot.
Merry Christmas.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:49 pm to I B Freeman
Still no link.
If you're (or someone you know is) struggling with finding a free or sliding scale clinic in your area, shoot me an email and I'll be happy to see what I can find for you.
If you're (or someone you know is) struggling with finding a free or sliding scale clinic in your area, shoot me an email and I'll be happy to see what I can find for you.
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