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re: Rush Limbaugh doesn't want Idris Elba as Bond. ..
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:23 pm to Clockwatcher68
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:23 pm to Clockwatcher68
Well if we're turning Bond black, let's turn Shaft white. One of these transformations would cause an uproar. Care to take a stab at which one it is? I mean, all of these racist guilt feeling people should grow a pair. Bond is white. Period. Now frick off.
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:55 pm to BradPitt
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Well if we're turning Bond black, let's turn Shaft white.
I don't think black people care about shaft as much as you think they do
Posted on 12/25/14 at 10:02 pm to wildtigercat93
Exactly. White Shaft would be fricking hilarious
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:09 pm to saintsfan22
I want bond to stay white mainly because I think Michael Fassbender could be the best Bond in decades.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:14 pm to FT
This is the image of James Bond as decided by Ian Fleming himself. The man is white and always should be IMO.
That being said...Rush sucks.
That being said...Rush sucks.
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:17 pm to Brightside Bengal
Well, Fassbender is German.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:25 pm to BradPitt
Shaft is apparently this huge trump card in this conversation. "LET'S JUST TURN SHAFT WHITE AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT!!!" It's an awful comparison. Race has a role in telling Shaft's story. Making him white would change plenty more than the color of his skin.
That's not the case for 007. In fact, nothing else would change outside of the color of his skin.
Second, let's pretend for a second that black people aren't severely underrepresented in film and television. Let's say you recast the Beverly Hills Cop franchise with a white actor. Do you think black people would go crazy over it? I certainly don't.
Or how about another franchise based on literature. If Blade was recast and was white, do you think black people would make a huge deal of it? Because again, I don't.
That's not the case for 007. In fact, nothing else would change outside of the color of his skin.
Second, let's pretend for a second that black people aren't severely underrepresented in film and television. Let's say you recast the Beverly Hills Cop franchise with a white actor. Do you think black people would go crazy over it? I certainly don't.
Or how about another franchise based on literature. If Blade was recast and was white, do you think black people would make a huge deal of it? Because again, I don't.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:27 pm to TotesMcGotes
They actually did want to cast a white actor for Beverly Hills Cop. Stallone I think.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:30 pm to JumpingTheShark
It went to Mickey Rourke first. That's not the point.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:30 pm to TotesMcGotes
I definitely disagree. If they turned a black character white in a show where that character was historically black or in a remake, it would definitely be made into a big deal and many would decry the decision.
Anyone saying otherwise is clearly being dishonest.
Anyone saying otherwise is clearly being dishonest.
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:31 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Shaft is apparently this huge trump card in this conversation. "LET'S JUST TURN SHAFT WHITE AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT!!!" It's an awful comparison. Race has a role in telling Shaft's story. Making him white would change plenty more than the color of his skin.
Plus it's hilarious because id be willing to bet that most black people don't even know who Shaft is
It be one thing if they were changing him to a black guy as a lame political statement. But Idris is an awesome actor, everyone loves that dude. If he's the best for for the role other then why wouldn't a fan of the series be hyped for him?
Be swave, be British (or Scottish or whatever) be handsome, bone chicks and kick arse. That's 007s job. And Idris could certainly do those things
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:32 pm to Scruffy
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I definitely disagree. If they turned a black character white, it would definitely be made into a big deal and many would decry the decision. Anyone saying otherwise is clearly being dishonest.
You really think there'd be riots in the streets over shaft?
it's fricking shaft!Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:34 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Did I say riots in the street?
You really think there'd be riots in the streets over shaft? it's fricking shaft!
People would be pissed though and it would make the news.
Do you honestly think that it wouldn't be a big deal?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:35 pm to Scruffy
You think having Zac Efron playing Blade in a reboot is going to be made into how big of a deal? I think it's an afterthought. You'll have a very small group of white people (who will be painted as the liberal majority, I'm sure) that will fight on behalf of black people, as they always do. Other than that, everyone goes about their business.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:36 pm to Scruffy
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Do you honestly think that it wouldn't be a big deal?
I honestly don't.
It's shaft
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:40 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:I don't think Blade is on par with the Bond series, but in a society where complaints are already made about the lack of blacks present in Hollywood, any change would result in anger, especially if it is a major motion picture.
You think having Zac Efron playing Blade in a reboot is going to be made into how big of a deal? I think it's an afterthought. You'll have a very small group of white people (who will be painted as the liberal majority, I'm sure) that will fight on behalf of black people, as they always do. Other than that, everyone goes about their business.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:44 pm to Scruffy
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but in a society where complaints are already made about the lack of blacks present in Hollywood
You're confusing people working in entertainment with society.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:45 pm to Scruffy
It's not. I just couldn't think of another franchise based on a book featuring an African American lead.
Also, the complains are legitimate. Black people are underrepresented. Even then, outside of the few white people championing the cause on behalf of black people, I don't think anyone would really care. I'm not being dishonest. I truly believe that.
Also, the complains are legitimate. Black people are underrepresented. Even then, outside of the few white people championing the cause on behalf of black people, I don't think anyone would really care. I'm not being dishonest. I truly believe that.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:51 pm to Scruffy
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I don't think Blade is on par with the Bond series,
And shaft is?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:54 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Shaft is apparently this huge trump card in this conversation. "LET'S JUST TURN SHAFT WHITE AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT!!!" It's an awful comparison. Race has a role in telling Shaft's story. Making him white would change plenty more than the color of his skin.
That's not the case for 007. In fact, nothing else would change outside of the color of his skin.
I agree with this and said it earlier. It makes absolute sense. The essence of the Shaft character requires him to be black.
As far as Bond is concerned, the modern day Bonds are working for the modern day British intelligence service. The character, while maintaining the Bond "cool" and ruthlessness, has been updated in a lot of ways. Here's a shocker, the MI6 (and MI5 for that matter) employ black agents.
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