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Update: Philadelphia drops civil asset forfeiture case against family

Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:12 pm
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The city of Philadelphia has dropped its attempt to seize two homes using civil asset forfeiture laws.

The city’s seizure of the homes made national headlines and became the basis for a lawsuit that challenges Philadelphia law enforcement agencies’ use of civil asset forfeiture in drug cases. That lawsuit will continue even though the city has dropped these two cases.

Chris Sourovelis and his family lost their home earlier this year after his son was caught by police selling $40 of heroin.

Their case, as we’ve reported on before, demonstrated some of the worst aspects of Philadelphia’s civil asset forfeiture program. The city’s police department and district attorneys’ office regularly seizes homes, cars and other property from suspected criminals without any conviction — and in some cases, without any charges being filed.

“I’ve lived in Philadelphia for over 30 years. I never thought it was possible for the police to just show up at my doorstep without notice and take my house when I’ve done nothing wrong,” Sorovelis said Thursday in a statement. “But that’s exactly what happened to me and my family.”

The Institute for Justice, a libertarian law firm that challenges civil asset forfeiture cases across the country, took the case on behalf of the two families. Attorneys working on the lawsuit say the city has set up a “forfeiture machine” to take advantage of the perverse incentives created by the law.

The Philadelphia District Attorneys’ office defends the practice as being a useful tool to fight drug dealers and targets homes and cars because they can be used to fuel the drug trade.

But those seizures also help pad law enforcement’s bottom line.

From 2002 through 2012, law enforcement in Philadelphia seized more than 1,000 homes, 3,200 vehicles and $44 million in cash, according to data obtained by the Institute for Justice through an open records request.

Those assets provided more than $64 million in revenue to the Philadelphia DA’s office, because Pennsylvania law allows local law enforcement to keep the proceeds from forfeited property after it is seized and resold.


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This was a goddamn travesty and perversion of due process that makes the American Legal system the best in the world IMO.

Even with these developments, it is my opinion that forced forfeiture of assets should only happen when there's a criminal conviction AND the gov't has proved beyond a reasonable doubt the asset was used in a crime or gained through crime.

Due process applies to both liberty and property.

For reference, I posted about this several months ago...

Homeowners sue Philly D.A. over seizure of Property via Forfeiture  
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37132 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:18 pm to
Finally one for the good guys
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62355 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:24 pm to
That's messed up!!!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123745 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Finally one for the good guys
Not if that is where it ends. The trauma and financial cost to these families was significant. For Philly to no claim "no harm no foul" is obscene.

This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33257 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:52 pm to
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Philadelphia drops civil asset forfeiture case against family


Good news.

quote:

due process that makes the American Legal system the best in the world IMO.


Wish I could agree, but I simply don't think it's true anymore.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76418 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:00 pm to
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Wish I could agree, but I simply don't think it's true anymore.
Whose is better?

Do you realize that many countries have NO due process?

Hell, even Britain has far less due process protection.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:32 pm to
Civil forfeiture is a violation of our universal human property rights.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14807 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

Not if that is where it ends. The trauma and financial cost to these families was significant. For Philly to no claim "no harm no foul" is obscene.


This is the truth. The cost was significant. There was definitely harm and foul done.

The city should pay this family for what they did.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:26 pm to
Now let's see if they give this family back their $160k wine collection.

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Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:44 am to
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Civil forfeiture is a violation of our universal human property rights.


Only if there is no due process and the gov't has proved beyond a reasonable doubt your legal guilt and gov't also proving beyond a reasonable doubt the property in question was used in the crime or a fruit of the crime.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33257 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:40 pm to
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Whose is better?


I understand that all countries have their plusses and minuses in this regard. My issue is with the sheer number of things that are illegal here as well as the almost total power given to prosecutors and the police.
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