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re: Josh Smith released

Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115268 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

What he did with the Pistons is completely irrelevant. That team is hopeless.




No. No it isn't irrelevant.

Josh Smith is hot garbage.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22383 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:17 pm to
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Zipfer2022


Why are you knighting for Josh Smith? Nothing good can come from that.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:25 pm to
We already have our own Josh Smith. For some reason, Evans gets a pass for being the same type of player. It did take people about 5 or 6 years to realize who Josh Smith was, though.





Posted by whoknows1390
nola
Member since Jul 2014
1672 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:28 pm to
You just ruined my day.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115268 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:29 pm to
I don't like Tyreke Evans, either, FWIW.
Posted by BayouBengal0505
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
2686 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:31 pm to
So a lot of you want two Tyreke Evans on the team. That will end well. I do not see how Josh Smith will co-exist with Harden who loves taking shots all day.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:41 pm to
It's the NBA and its fan's in general. Like I said, Josh Smith was viewed as being one of the next big things in the NBA at one point. Broke into the league very young. He was that hybrid who could rebound and block shots. Was a decent enough passer. He had highlight reel dunks. He could really do a whole lot of things except shoot. That Swiss army knife type game made people ignore his shooting inefficiencies. It wasn't until the last few years that people realizes his bad offensive philosophy far outweighs any positive he does otherwise.

^ people are starting to realize the same about Evans. Simmons dubbed him one of the worst contracts. Goldsberry made a mockery of his shot chart. Blind fandom often gets in the way of how much a player kills a team
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8173 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:50 pm to
To be fair to Reke at least he knows he's terrible at shooting. He pretty much only shoots jumpers if he's really feeling it or as a last resort.

It's still a major problem, but I don't think it's the willfil obstinate lack of fricks given by smith
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:52 pm to
You're right, he's not as out of hand as Smith.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25313 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:56 pm to
That proves nothing.
Add Kobe, Jamal Crawford, Monta, Westbrook, Lillard, Harden, Ginobili. They all have similar looking numbers.

Evans is not a comparison to Josh Smith.
He needs to learn to pass the ball more, but he's no Josh SMith, and he's actually been shooting decent from 3 this year.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:59 pm to
If we have to watch a Josh Smith iso at the end of a Pelicans game... Monty might actually get fired from negative press so bring it on.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

That proves nothing.
Add Kobe, Jamal Crawford, Monta, Westbrook, Lillard, Harden, Ginobili. They all have similar looking numbers.

Evans is not a comparison to Josh Smith.
He needs to learn to pass the ball more, but he's no Josh SMith, and he's actually been shooting decent from 3 this year.
Agreed. I remember one of Smith's last year in Atlanta he shoot 70% in the paint and 30% out of it.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:22 pm to
Josh Smith doesn't advance your gamestate like at all when he's in the game on top of being a cancer.

Tyreke at least hits a jumper every now an then and has curtailed his boneheadedness to a degree.

Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

That proves nothing.
Add Kobe, Jamal Crawford, Monta, Westbrook, Lillard, Harden, Ginobili. They all have similar looking numbers.





quote:

Evans is not a comparison to Josh Smith.


quote:

I remember one of Smith's last year in Atlanta he shoot 70% in the paint and 30% out of it.



Yeah, they both shoot around 60% at the rim for their career. They are frickin putrid everywhere else on the floor while shooting close to 15 shots a game.

Follow me here

The NBA tracks shot charts from

At the rim
3ft-10ft
10ft-16ft
16ft-3P
3P

ok?

Evans and Smith have 15 years of NBA experience combined. In those 15 seasons, they have only shot 40% from any of those spots on the floor combined two times.. TWO... and it was Smith, who happened to shoot 40% from 3ft-10ft twice. They have shot in the 30%, 20% and even down into the teens from those spots on the floor. Do you realize how bad that is? To continue even attempting those shots at such a low efficiency? Both players are terrible shooters who continue to jack up shots outside the paint with no regard.


quote:

Josh Smith doesn't advance your gamestate like at all when he's in the game on top of being a cancer.

Tyreke at least hits a jumper every now an then and has curtailed his boneheadedness to a degree.



lol no
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:09 pm to
I'm not saying he's perfect but he's doing better compared to early in the year(well except for last night but that was partly monty)

He's not a lost cause like smith is.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:18 pm to
I dont think Smith is a lost cause. Getting out of Detroit is going to help him a lot. He's a year removed from being courted by multiple teams as one of the top FA on the market.

He is probably a better player than Evans, honestly. Same type of offensive game, but at least he's capable of being a very good defender.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

He is probably a better player than Evans, honestly. Same type of offensive game, but at least he's capable of being a very good defender.


Has he been a good defender lately? I saw in the MSB thread he got torched by plumlee last night.

Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:33 pm to
Honestly, I havent watched much of him since he went to Detroit. But I watched a ton of Hawk games when I lived in ATL. He's still pretty young and athletic, I think he still has some game left in him.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38601 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:20 pm to
he's easily an above average defender. that's what's scary about him maybe going to Houston

his usage rate on offense would rightfully plummet, but he would improve an already good defense assuming they play him at the 4

harden/Beverly/monteijunas or smith/Howard/ariza would be formidable
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 7:21 pm
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80141 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:06 pm to
Going to Houston
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