re: Why are both sides of the PoliBoard melting so hard right now?

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both sides as in two sides...

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Yeah, this is the most common error people make IMO. That, and the "this board" bullshite. There's quite a diversity of ideas presented here, some just seek out the ones that reinforce their ideas.

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Yeah, this is the most common error people make IMO.

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Negatory. The most common error is not establishing a vector for your life. Successful people do that. Others just whine.

Well, one issue that liberals are drawing to as a parallel really doesn't work. Liberals claimed that the angry rhetoric of the Tea Party "targeting" politicians could lead to violence. When Congresswoman Giffords was shot, this act of violence was immediately attributed to the Tea Party rhetoric. In this case, however, rhetoric had nothing to do with it because the shooter was, in fact, a liberal democrat. Conservatives defended their rhetoric because it held no bearing on the issue to which it was being attributed.

Where conservatives deserve criticism for their rhetoric leading to dangerous actions lies in the IRS airplane bombing a few years ago. Thankfully, no one but the deranged pilot was killed in that fiasco.

In the case of the police shooting in New York, the violent anti-police, anti-establishment, and anti-white narrative actually played a tremendous role in the mind of the shooter. In fact, the shooter's social media accounts were filled with such rhetoric. DeBlasio's campaign for mayor was often seen as a rebuke against the heavy-handed police tactics seen during the Bloomberg administration. DeBlasio also often played on that anti-police, anti-white rhetoric during his campaign, and doubled down on it in the past weeks. He deserves all of the criticism he is getting even though it really is not his fault that those policemen where killed.

In all honesty, everyone in the public eye needs to take a hard look in the mirror and maybe, just maybe, taking it down a notch.

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DeBlasio's anti-police rhetoric

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Can you cite some of this rhetoric for me? I've looked but can't find anything really inflammatory.

thx

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So just like every other day

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Maybe it's the combination of the Christmas Spirit meeting with the air of desperation.

Like when a high pressure system meets a low pressure system and there's a tornado.

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Stop & Frisk

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I've had to worry over the years, Chirlane has had to worry: Is Dante safe each night?" he said. "And not just from some of the painful realities of crime and violence in some of our neighborhoods but safe from the very people they want to have faith in as their protectors.

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These are just two I grabbed quickly. They both push the same "if you are a minority, the cops are out to get you" meme.

Yeah were so worried we put record Numbers in the House and Senate. You liberals are like kids. Just keep on and maybe oneday you'll be able to not depend upon the Government. Good luck, i really hope so, im tired of your women chasing us real men.

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And much of the reason for that domination is related to the Left's inability, to cogently offer oppositional dialogue which undermines Righties' arguments. Note Navy's response to Pimp's bomb. Playground mentality.

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Well it's true. You offered no substance. Only personal invective. And you called my wife "Viet Cong" and "half-Asian". And then you apologized. And I accepted your apology. But people rightly took note and filed it away for future reference. Respectfully, You are who you are, not a man to offer substantive rebuttal, apparently.

I think the melt is hard because people have had their fill. People are tired of being poked in the chest. They are tired of people flipping the furniture. And they are tired of being polite about very important SUBSTANTIVE issues that require strong stances. And on this board, there are those who will not abide a strong reasoned point of view that conflicts with their own. And they start to call names, and then their buddies come running and it turns into an insult-fest.

Many people (overwhelmingly liberal) erroneously believe that a cavalcade of Insult somehow trumps a reasoned point. That may be why they self-identify with liberalism in the first place. It doesn't require intellectual rigor, it only requires piss and vinegar.

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I think the melt is hard because people have had their fill. People are tired of being poked in the chest. They are tired of people flipping the furniture. And they are tired of being polite about very important SUBSTANTIVE issues that require strong stances. And on this board, there are those who will not abide a strong reasoned point of view that conflicts with their own. And they start to call names, and then their buddies come running and it turns into an insult-fest.

Many people (overwhelmingly liberal) erroneously believe that a cavalcade of Insult somehow trumps a reasoned point. That may be why they self-identify with liberalism in the first place. It doesn't require intellectual rigor, it only requires piss and vinegar.

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I desperately want to respond to all of this, but I'm at work and only have enough time to contribute quick snippets.

Suffice it to say, I disagree with basically all of this.