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re: VICE- The Dominant Life Form in the Cosmos Is Probably Superintelligent Robots
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:53 am to Blue Velvet
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:53 am to Blue Velvet
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The mathematical ignorance to assume that such an extremely unlikely anomaly has taken place isn't as bad as the arrogance in believing we are the most advanced beings in the Cosmos. The 149th brightest guy on the TigerDroppings PoliticalBoard ( ) believes whatever intelligent life is out there isn't as smart as he is
If the assertation is that we are the most advanced beings that have ever been, I agree with your sentiment. However, the asseration that we are currently the most advanced beings is a lot more reasonable given the relatively brief time a species exists.
I think that was discussed in the new Cosmos series.
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:56 am to HempHead
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However, the very, very, very small chance that we are.....what do we do?
What the frick do you mean, what do we do?
Uhhh....wake up and go to your job.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:59 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
It's actually a dumb article. Who built the first robot?
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:24 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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It's actually a dumb article. Who built the first robot?
/thread
Dont think you understood that article
reopen thread
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Somebody get Commander Shepard on the phone, stat.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:25 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Not possible. Robots are not living.
Depends on your definition of living. We are just carbon based machines and DNA is our programming.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:32 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
God made robots.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:33 am to Hester Carries
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Dont think you understood that article
I see an article that takes the advances of human kind, extrapolates them into shite that hasn't really happened yet, assumes that is the rule for any civilization, makes assumptions on what's in space when we have 0 observed evidence of such nonsense, then wraps that around "but humans can't even understand it"
No shite, because it makes no sense. I could say that life in any other galaxy is invisible magic, and I have as much evidence as any of these people claiming this
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
What if robots have already been on our planet for 1000s of years and we just didn't recognize them because if their lifelike synthetic human skin? What if Genghis Kahn was a robot? Or Millard Fillmore?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:40 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I could say that life in any other galaxy is invisible magic, and I have as much evidence as any of these people claiming this
Nope. This article is at least based on trends that we have seen in the only laboratory that we have available with which to observe a precedent.
Talking about invisible magic would be more in the "argumentatively obtuse hypothesis" category haha.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:53 am to ThuperThumpin
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We are just carbon based machines and DNA is our programming.
That is such a poor excuse for an answer.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
an advanced civilization trying to communicate with others would most likely be using a form of quantum entanglement - or something more advanced (interdimensional, etc). we don't have the tools to listen for this yet
just a theory
just a theory
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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IF there is other intelligent life out there that is somewhat humanoid, will they have an economic system more similar to central planning or free markets?
If they are more advanced than us, it will most likely be a post-scarcity society where neither free markets and/or central planning have any bearing.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:12 am to Hester Carries
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Nope. This article is at least based on trends that we have seen in the only laboratory that we have available with which to observe a precedent.
What has been observed? Time? Inhabitable planets?
Why would an inhabitable planet matter to a non-organic life form?
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:19 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:25 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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What has been observed? Time? Inhabitable planets?
Earth has been observed. The theory is that trends show that technology is advancing millions of times more rapidly than biology. Given this trend, AI will happen within the next thousand years. Also given this the assumption is that somewhere (maybe multiple places) there exists beings like us capable of building technology and they started long before us. Due to the lack of temporal and atmospheric limitations of mechanical technology the likelihood that something survives long enough to reach super intelligence is greatly increased when it is technological in nature.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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These AIs turn on their makers and destroy their civilization.
Same thing happened in the Dune universe. The humans were eventually enslaved by their machine servants. Until the Butlerian Jihad defeated the machines on the Bridge of Hrethgir. Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:26 am to OMLandshark
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despite the fact that their existence is a near mathematical certainty.
come on the Fermi equation is famous for being full of numbers that are just guesses. there's no 'certainty' there at all. it would only take a few million years for a civilization to colonize the entire galaxy. so hence the big question: where is everybody? why are there no indications of type 1 civilizations? why no large scale engineering like dyson spheres or star alignment? there are possible explanations for all the questions but they are just wild arse guesses. bottom line: no one knows if there is any other intelligent life or if we're the only one.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 8:36 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:27 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
That's why I invest in
Just remember:
Just remember:
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:28 am to Hester Carries
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The theory is that trends show that technology is advancing millions of times more rapidly than biology.
this is only a theory and "strong AI" is still a pipe dream at this point. we're really good at programming machines to do specific things, even very sophisticated things, but we don't even have rudimentary "strong AI" that can think independently. cockroaches are smarter than our best AI in that regard.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So,
Something like Transformers?
Something like Transformers?
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