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How to kill St.George.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:31 pm
It looks like, for now, that a vote on SG incorporation will happen in May at the earliest.
The legislature convenes in April. Since the boundaries of the original SEBR were passed previously, it would only take funding the district to bring it to life. Will anyone propose this to divert the incorporation effort?
I, for one, am a strong SG proponent, but I would admittedly be satisfied enough with the formation of the ISD that I would be OK with dropping the pursuit of incorporation, for now. Would either side "agree" to it?
Just something to chew on.....
The legislature convenes in April. Since the boundaries of the original SEBR were passed previously, it would only take funding the district to bring it to life. Will anyone propose this to divert the incorporation effort?
I, for one, am a strong SG proponent, but I would admittedly be satisfied enough with the formation of the ISD that I would be OK with dropping the pursuit of incorporation, for now. Would either side "agree" to it?
Just something to chew on.....
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 11:39 pm
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:51 pm to Sprocket46
Nope.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:50 am to Sprocket46
The incorporation of the City of St. George does not get that area a new school district. If the city passes, the legislature will pass a school district that matches the city boundries. In order to fund the district and transfer ownership of property a constitutional amendment will need to pass the state, Ebr parish, and the Ebrpss taxing area.
A lot of the people involved in the movement have been misled into thinking a city automatically gets them a school district.
Easiest way to get control of the schools in sebr would be for the group to form a charter school group and then have the new BRAC elected school board give them the schools they want.
A lot of the people involved in the movement have been misled into thinking a city automatically gets them a school district.
Easiest way to get control of the schools in sebr would be for the group to form a charter school group and then have the new BRAC elected school board give them the schools they want.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:48 am to Shaun176
quote:You get it.
Shaun176
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:14 am to Shaun176
Didn't know that Shaun176 thanks for the insight.
I do know they told residence of Central(when I lived there) that their taxes wouldn't go up either and that wasn't true. They WILL go up! If you are ok with that then fine but a lot of people have been mislead on that as well.
I do know they told residence of Central(when I lived there) that their taxes wouldn't go up either and that wasn't true. They WILL go up! If you are ok with that then fine but a lot of people have been mislead on that as well.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:23 am to Sprocket46
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Would either side "agree" to it?
No. EBR got its panties in a wad that people and tax dollars wanted to leave.
Media stories were run that St. George is a racist movement. That is fricking despicable. You know God forbid people want a better education for their children. You have a city like Baton Rouge that has a very large minority percentage with failing schools and violence. Why would anyone want to send their kid to those shitty public schools that have no accountability and constantly lie and fudge numbers?
It is despicable that any residents living there have to pay taxes to fund EBR schools, and still pony up more cash to send their kid to a high dollar private school just so they can get an education worth a shite.
EBR should have let them have a school district and this shite never would have gotten to this point.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:26 am to Shaun176
quote:And that is no accident. It's the tactic the SG petition people have used to get signatures.
A lot of the people involved in the movement have been misled into thinking a city automatically gets them a school district.
As I've related several times in other SG threads, I've been solicited many times at the shopping center on the corner of Perkins and Siegen (where Calandros is) by SG workers who asked me to sign their petition with their sales pitch being "Do you want to sign a petition so we can get better schools?"
Only by reading what the petition said did I know it was the incorporation petition. When I asked the workers where did it say anything about better schools on the petition they got very defensive, didn't want to speak to me anymore and turned their attention to the next person walking into the store repeating the same lie to that person.
I've wondered how many people signed the petition without taking the time to read the paragraph at the top of the petition which explains its purpose and thinking they were signing a petition requesting the school board for better schools?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:28 am to Reames239
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Media stories were run that St. George is a racist movement. That is fricking despicable.
quote:
a city like Baton Rouge that has a very large minority percentage
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:32 am to LSURussian
Are you saying that it does not have a large minority percentage that is largely in the group of failing and violent schools ?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:36 am to Reames239
No, I'm pointing out your statement that it's "fricking despicable" that race has been reported as a motive for the SG effort and then two sentences later you give race as a motivation.
That's either irony or hypocrisy. I'll let you decide which it is.....
That's either irony or hypocrisy. I'll let you decide which it is.....
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 8:39 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:38 am to Shaun176
quote:
a constitutional amendment will need to pass the state, Ebr parish, and the Ebrpss taxing area.
It doesn't need to pass in the EBRSS tax district but it does have to pass a parish-wide vote. It won't pass, of course - and SG organizers know that. The plan was to gain control over the finances, a la incorporation.
The movement started when they realized Mike Walker was going to lose the election to Kip Holden.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 8:43 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:39 am to LSURussian
I'll go with hypocritical. But Central got their own school district, stopped the busing, and is now a top school system in the state.
Take it for what it is worth. The idea that white flight is racism is another thread entirely.
Take it for what it is worth. The idea that white flight is racism is another thread entirely.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:42 am to Asgard Device
quote:This is a rare time when I disagree with you on something regarding SG.
The movement started the day Mike Walker lost the election to Kip Holden.
The SG movement started the day the EBR school board rejected Bodi White's and Lionel Rainey, the Third's application to start a for-profit charter school on the basis that nobody associated with the proposed charter school had any background in education.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:43 am to Reames239
quote:You have chosen wisely.
I'll go with hypocritical.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:43 am to LSURussian
quote:
Posted by LSURussian quote: The movement started the day Mike Walker lost the election to Kip Holden. This is a rare time when I disagree with you on something regarding SG. The SG movement started the day the EBR school board rejected Bodi White's and Lionel Rainey, the Third's application to start a for-profit charter school on the basis that nobody associated with the proposed charter school had any background in education.
Wait. Boss Hogg wanted to get in the charter school game? Damn, that is horrifying.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:46 am to LSURussian
My poorly worded rambling isn't incorrect, however.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:48 am to Reames239
Reames239, you are buying into the lies of the St. G leaders.
Lie #1, Ebrpss is the worst, most dangerous school district in the country.
Fact, Ebrpss is ranked in the middle of state rankings and ranks in the top 25% of large urban districts nationally.
Lie #2, you can not get a quality education in Ebrpss.
Fact, Ebrpss has consistantly produced more National Merit and Advanced Placement scholars than all of the ISDs and private schools in EBR combined.
Lie #3, taxes won't go up.
Fact, The state constitution will require the area to continue to fund parish offices as well as establish several municipal offices. More govt= more taxes.
Also, the individual school scores have not improved (considering overall growth in ebr and state scores) since leaving ebr. Central High and Zachary High were both A schools when they were in Ebrpss.
Lie #1, Ebrpss is the worst, most dangerous school district in the country.
Fact, Ebrpss is ranked in the middle of state rankings and ranks in the top 25% of large urban districts nationally.
Lie #2, you can not get a quality education in Ebrpss.
Fact, Ebrpss has consistantly produced more National Merit and Advanced Placement scholars than all of the ISDs and private schools in EBR combined.
Lie #3, taxes won't go up.
Fact, The state constitution will require the area to continue to fund parish offices as well as establish several municipal offices. More govt= more taxes.
Also, the individual school scores have not improved (considering overall growth in ebr and state scores) since leaving ebr. Central High and Zachary High were both A schools when they were in Ebrpss.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:49 am to Asgard Device
quote:That information was in a SG thread last year which provided a link to the expose' connecting the dots between Lionel Rainy, The Third and Boss Hogg White. Haven't you wondered how those two became best buds??
Wait. Boss Hogg wanted to get in the charter school game? Damn, that is horrifying.
I'll see if I can find it and if I can, I'll post a link to it here.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:53 am to Shaun176
Upvote.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:55 am to LSURussian
quote:
connecting the dots between Lionel Rainy, The Third and Boss Hogg White. Haven't you wondered how those two became best buds??
Well, not really. LR3 provides "free" political consulting to Bodi White and in exchange LR3 gets generic no-bid contracts for the max amount from the state for duties already performed by another agency and other contractors.
Bodi "Boss Hogg" White is one of the most crooked MFers in the state legislature. His body of work is impressive for a guy with the IQ of that dude from Sling Blade.
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