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US Auto Bailout Caused More TARP Losses Than Banks (CNN)
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:11 pm
The overall TARP program is basically unwound and resulted in a net positive cash flow of $15.3 billion to the Federal Government, but this was after $9.2 billion in losses to GM & Chrysler. Pretty surprised to see CNN openly state the following:
Yet Toyota, BMW, and other "foreign" auto companies who employ thousands of American workers in non-union factories required no assistance (to be fair, neither did Ford). While I'm not in favor of "abandoning free market principles to save the free market," I find it amusing that the bank bailouts resulted in a net gain while the auto company bailouts resulted in a net loss. Blame those evil banks, Democrats, and keep kicking the can with the unions.
CNN Money
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Overall, the auto bailout was the one big money loser for TARP. Even with the Ally sale, taxpayers lost about $9.2 billion.
But opting not to bail out the auto industry likely would have proven far more costly, since GM, Chrysler and many car dealers likely would have gone out of business without the government's help.
If GM and Chrysler had gone under, it would have cost an estimated $39 billion to $105 billion in lost tax revenues as well as assistance to the unemployed, according to a study from the Center for Auto Research. And the government also would have been on the hook for billions in promised pension payments to autoworkers.
Yet Toyota, BMW, and other "foreign" auto companies who employ thousands of American workers in non-union factories required no assistance (to be fair, neither did Ford). While I'm not in favor of "abandoning free market principles to save the free market," I find it amusing that the bank bailouts resulted in a net gain while the auto company bailouts resulted in a net loss. Blame those evil banks, Democrats, and keep kicking the can with the unions.
CNN Money
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:00 am to TerryDawg03
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And the government also would have been on the hook for billions in promised pension payments to autoworkers.
Refresh my memory, why would the gov't have been responsible to pay pension benefits of private companies (GM/Chrysler) if they went bankrupt?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:27 am to Brightside Bengal
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:30 am to Brightside Bengal
If they weren't allowed to file bankruptcy and the government nationalized them, they'd be on the hook for the liabilities. To my understanding.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:33 am to TerryDawg03
Thing is, they wouldn't have gone under for long. Someone would have came along and bought out those companies and continued production under new management and a better business plan.
Just like what happened with Hostess
Just like what happened with Hostess
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:35 am to deltaland
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Thing is, they wouldn't have gone under for long. Someone would have came along and bought out those companies and continued production under new management and a better business plan.
Just like what happened with Hostess
Exactly. The difference is that the union contracts would have been renegotiated. With the bailout, the unions got to keep their sweetheart deal.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:35 am to TerryDawg03
Do these projections assume this void is not filled by more productive operators supplying these same products, jobs, taxes, etc?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:13 am to TerryDawg03
quote:As your link indicates, taxpayers ended up making a profit off of the banks' TARP money.
More TARP Losses Than Banks
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:25 am to TerryDawg03
If you remember, some of the banks such as Wells Fargo didn't want the money nor needed it but were forced to take it.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:58 am to LSURussian
So the government got equity in distressed businesses at distressed prices, and basically rigged the markets to insure those businesses recovered. And then when those businesses ceased to be distressed, and their market values increased, the government sold at a profit. Sounds like a great way to run an economy.
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