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re: Harbaugh will be fired not traded.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:40 am to JohnHager913
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:40 am to JohnHager913
Pretty sure you're premise of 49ers won't hold onto him because they will lose face is ridiculous. If JH wanted to go to Michigan he could at any time right? 9ers would be off hook for his $5 million owed next year. Also any business as the 49ers are, will look to get the most of out their asset even if teams don't offer high draft pick, any draft pick is better than firing him. He doesn't want to be there anymore than they want him there. This is all ploys to get best job in NFL for him. If not he would be gone next Monday to UM. And I doubt being in same market is going to affect them trading to Raiders, each have their own rabid fan bases and NFL is shared revenue to an extent so it doesn't matter much. Just my two cents.
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:49 am to dos crystal
you are crazy to think about 8m and 5m is the same. i think a lot of people on this board will laugh at you.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:51 am to safety_man
I don't understand why it would not already be announced if he is going to Michigan? Wouldn't Harbaugh want to try to salvage the recruiting class, get some buzz etc? The 49ers are out, why hold on to him if he is going to college?
Doesn't make sense unless this is all manipulation from the Harbaugh camp. I think Harbaugh's camp is putting the screws to the 49ers with leaks, trying to goad them into responding in the most heavy handed way possible.
If I am Baalke I laugh about all of this, the 49ers have the leverage here. Why give leverage up until you have to? Why work on Michigan's schedule? Why give any professional courtesy to Harbaugh whatsoever?
The 49ers can hold onto him, deny all offers, park him until all other jobs are filled, pay him to sit and promote Roman to HC for a year.
If Harbaugh quits then they don't owe him shite.
Doesn't make sense unless this is all manipulation from the Harbaugh camp. I think Harbaugh's camp is putting the screws to the 49ers with leaks, trying to goad them into responding in the most heavy handed way possible.
If I am Baalke I laugh about all of this, the 49ers have the leverage here. Why give leverage up until you have to? Why work on Michigan's schedule? Why give any professional courtesy to Harbaugh whatsoever?
The 49ers can hold onto him, deny all offers, park him until all other jobs are filled, pay him to sit and promote Roman to HC for a year.
If Harbaugh quits then they don't owe him shite.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:52 am to JohnHager913
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you are crazy to think about 8m and 5m is the same. i think a lot of people on this board will laugh at you.
The actual dollar amount isn't really that big of difference to a guy that is a millionaire. At this point it's about being respected as it relates to pay.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:56 am to MightyYat
John Harbaugh makes $7mm
The discussion starts there. Jim Harbaugh is a nut and no question he wants to "win" and be the highest paid coach in football. The list starts at Payton's $8mm.
It isn't about the money, it is about the status. The best gets paid the most in his mind. It is more money for his wife to spend, he doesn't give a shite about spending money.
The discussion starts there. Jim Harbaugh is a nut and no question he wants to "win" and be the highest paid coach in football. The list starts at Payton's $8mm.
It isn't about the money, it is about the status. The best gets paid the most in his mind. It is more money for his wife to spend, he doesn't give a shite about spending money.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:04 am to supatigah
He has to let this week play out, otherwise he looks like a Petrino style punk who quit on his team. I'm sure I am the naive Michigan fan here, but he doesn't need Michigan to get leverage. The NFL teams would cream themselves over him and engage in their own bidding war. As far as recruiting, isn't the dead period until mid-January and signing day in early February? That's a decent amount of time to shore up the class. Plus, they are sort of punting on recruiting for this year, anyway.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:05 am to safety_man
no. i did not say 49ers hold on jh is for losing faces or not.
Read carefully.
Peacefully and quickly to part ways is the best choice for both 49ers and JH. Both gained in business sense and at the same time, both look honorable.
JH wants to coach the last game. He does not want to quit because he may come back to NFL in the future. Michigan offer is good til Jan 1. He can not drag on any longer.
Michigan will have the coach ready before school resumes on jan 4th.
so JH need this to be solved before Jan 1st. any NFL teams that are interested in JH need to move quick. the team need to contact 49ers, fire their coach and start interview black coach. also you need to make sure you really like JH. the time window is too small.
the one team i am worrying most is falcons. they have money and the roster is good. so we michigan fans should pray for falcons making the playoff. at the same time, i doubt falcons will commit to JH without lengthy interview.
Raiders is the least i am worrying about. That organization is stupid always chasing the hot girls. 49ers would like to see raiders suck as long as possible. yes. they have their own fan base. but how about the young kids who just start watching football. it is always easier to root for a winner than a loser.
Read carefully.
Peacefully and quickly to part ways is the best choice for both 49ers and JH. Both gained in business sense and at the same time, both look honorable.
JH wants to coach the last game. He does not want to quit because he may come back to NFL in the future. Michigan offer is good til Jan 1. He can not drag on any longer.
Michigan will have the coach ready before school resumes on jan 4th.
so JH need this to be solved before Jan 1st. any NFL teams that are interested in JH need to move quick. the team need to contact 49ers, fire their coach and start interview black coach. also you need to make sure you really like JH. the time window is too small.
the one team i am worrying most is falcons. they have money and the roster is good. so we michigan fans should pray for falcons making the playoff. at the same time, i doubt falcons will commit to JH without lengthy interview.
Raiders is the least i am worrying about. That organization is stupid always chasing the hot girls. 49ers would like to see raiders suck as long as possible. yes. they have their own fan base. but how about the young kids who just start watching football. it is always easier to root for a winner than a loser.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:08 am to supatigah
Probably the most reasonable post yet on both Hawbaw leaving San Francisco and him going to Michigan.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:51 am to JohnHager913
Harbaugh has to make that decision by January 1st not the 49ers. I never said he would quit before season I said by next Monday he'd be in Michigan if he wants to go there. 49ers can just wait for offers, there is no rush for them really although I expect it will be quick even with trade, those talks are going on right now I'm sure.
We will all see next week after the season. I think it could go either way as none of us know Harbaugh personally. It's really his decision.
My guess is the Raiders, 49ers aren't worried about losing new fans, they'll be good again with right coach, it's a talented roster. NFL is different than college, they'll always have their fans, especially a historic franchise such as theirs.
We will all see next week after the season. I think it could go either way as none of us know Harbaugh personally. It's really his decision.
My guess is the Raiders, 49ers aren't worried about losing new fans, they'll be good again with right coach, it's a talented roster. NFL is different than college, they'll always have their fans, especially a historic franchise such as theirs.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:00 pm to JohnHager913
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No other NFL team is going to pay JH $8M since the Michigan offer will be off table
That's a poor assumption.
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The 2, 3 also will damage the 49ers reputation
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:01 pm to dos crystal
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who really thinks it's about money with Jim H.? The guy is loaded. He played in the n.f.l., made tons of money. He's made tons more coaching. I don't think a deal of 8 mil or 5 mil is going to sway him either way. It's going to be about what he wants to do, not money. He's is LOADED.
Disagree. You'd have to ignore the behavior of hundreds of coaching changes over the years to come to this conclusion.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:19 pm to JohnHager913
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you are crazy to think about 8m and 5m is the same. i think a lot of people on this board will laugh at you.
yeah, i'm concerned about people on this board laughing at me or what they think.
Jim H. has probably over 30 million, you really think he's concerned about money? He won't make life changing decisions over 2 or 3 mil. he has enough money to do nothing, live where he is living, and be ok.
If this was a guy who's coming up the coaching ranks from a small school like central michigan or so, yes, that kind of money is to good to pass up. (2 or 3 million difference) We are talking about a guy who's made a ton of money playing and coaching. it's not as important to him.
If oakland offers him Six and he doesn't have to move his wife, who is happy where she is, you think that two million is going to be the deciding factor when he has 30 million banked? don't think so.
If the money meant that much to him, he would have jumped already.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:36 pm to dos crystal
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Jim H. has probably over 30 million, you really think he's concerned about money? He won't make life changing decisions over 2 or 3 mil. he has enough money to do nothing, live where he is living, and be ok.
I think you are wrong. 99% of coaches will follow 3M extra.
The real issue is that Harbaugh is going to make about the same amount of money no matter where he ends up. That's why money won't be the deciding factor.
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