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re: Why I've always thought the opposition to 18-game NFL sked is dishonest
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:22 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:22 pm to ballscaster
most fascinating thing about this thread is how a communist like you is so anti-labor
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:41 am to ballscaster
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The average player plays 13 minutes a game. There's nothing wrong with 18 games
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:17 am to Melvin
Every team attempts to play 19 games a year. But 18 is "unfair."
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:18 am to ballscaster
quote:You're not even trying at this point.
Every team attempts to play 19 games a year. But 18 is "unfair."
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:38 am to shel311
Being that 19 is more than 18, I don't really have to. The players are just dishonest with the "unfair" thing. The truth is probably something involving them not wanting to punch the clock for two more weeks.
To call two extra games unfair, you have to willfully ignore that a player's playing time can be budgeted. Baseball figured this out with pitch counts; teams do this to maximize the effectiveness they get out of their workhorses. If a starter sits out one series per football game, he'll play about the same number of snaps in an 18-game schedule as he does currently.
Basically, 18 games is unfair if you're stupid.
To call two extra games unfair, you have to willfully ignore that a player's playing time can be budgeted. Baseball figured this out with pitch counts; teams do this to maximize the effectiveness they get out of their workhorses. If a starter sits out one series per football game, he'll play about the same number of snaps in an 18-game schedule as he does currently.
Basically, 18 games is unfair if you're stupid.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:40 am to ballscaster
quote:This doesn't even make sense, like I said, you're not even trying.
Being that 19 is more than 18, I don't really have to
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:43 am to ballscaster
quote:Are you paying them extra for it?
truth is probably something involving them not wanting to punch the clock for two more weeks.
quote:Are you increasing the roster limits?
To call two extra games unfair, you have to willfully ignore that a player's playing time can be budgeted. Baseball figured this out with pitch counts; teams do this to maximize the effectiveness they get out of their workhorses. If a starter sits out one series per football game, he'll play about the same number of snaps in an 18-game schedule as he does currently
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:45 am to ballscaster
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If a starter sits out one series per football game, he'll play about the same number of snaps in an 18-game schedule as he does currently.
You have to be trolling to keep trotting out this utterly retarded "logic." Surely you can't be this stupid, can you?
But let's pretend you're serious. Carrying your "logic" further, apparently you think sitting out one series per game over 18 regular season games would have an equal effect for a player's body's healing process as sitting out for two consecutive weeks. Do you actually think this?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:47 am to shel311
quote:I would hope so.
Are you paying them extra for it?
quote:I would be in favor of this as it is.
Are you increasing the roster limits?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:47 am to ballscaster
quote:So in this 18 game scenario the playoffs just disappear?
Being that 19 is more than 18, I don't really have to
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:54 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Not what I said.
apparently you think sitting out one series per game over 18 regular season games would have an equal effect for a player's body's healing process as sitting out for two consecutive weeks.
Obviously playing less in a game gives you less from which to heal. How that stacks up against the two extra games begs some sort of balance, sure. But, there's 53 guys on the team. They're suited up to play if needed. If you do something so much that you can't do it 18 times a year, why isn't reeling it back a tad a viable option, especially when there are fresh bodies behind you?
I have a similar view of NBA players claiming to be fatigued in their 82 game schedule. There's 7 guys on the bench. If you need relief, be relieved.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:56 am to ballscaster
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Not what I said
It is though. It is the only way to take your "logic" further. If you don't feel that way, you don't agree with your own original statement.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:58 am to trackfan
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Labor (the NFLPA), who was opposed to 18 games, doesn't get to decide when it's time to call off the dogs, management (the head coaches) does.
This
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:59 am to LNCHBOX
quote:No, it's the only way you can figure out how to take my logic further.
It is though. It is the only way to take your "logic" further.
Maybe sit out a series per game. Maybe two. Maybe more. Use platoons. Whatever works. You have 53 pieces for 60 minutes. There is more than enough room to mitigate the risk through which starting players will go in an 18 game schedule.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:00 am to ballscaster
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If you're tired, sit down. If you're hurt, sit down. If you don't feel like playing, sit down. There's 52 other guys on the team, and that's what they're there for--to replace tired/hurt players.
Like its just that easy with no repercussions. The coach usually has a say in things like this
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:00 am to ballscaster
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No, it's the only way you can figure out how to take my logic further.
There's nothing to figure out. It's stupid.
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Maybe sit out a series per game. Maybe two. Maybe more. Use platoons. Whatever works. You have 53 pieces for 60 minutes
Ok, so the only other way to further it is to drop the quality of the game just to have more games. Great plan.
ETA: No coach is going to sit his star players for any series unless they absolutely have to. Everything you're saying is stupid.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 9:02 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:01 am to ballscaster
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Every team attempts to play 19 games a year. But 18 is "unfair."
You're dumb
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:02 am to trackfan
quote:sorry for overlooking this. The NFLPA fights for the rights of players to use drugs that make their bodies unrealistically big and strong to the point that this sport is killing them, and the body count will only rise. This, and not the idea of playing 18 games, is what is truly harmful to the players.
Labor (the NFLPA), who was opposed to 18 games, doesn't get to decide when it's time to call off the dogs, management (the head coaches) does.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:05 am to LNCHBOX
quote:But not unfair.
There's nothing to figure out. It's stupid.
quote:But not unfair.
Great plan.
quote:But not unfair.
Everything you're saying is stupid.
Don't attribute to me points I have not made and opinions I don't have. I said that it isn't unfair. The players are dishonest when they make that assertion.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:08 am to ballscaster
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But not unfair.
It's stupid.
quote:
But not unfair.
It's stupid.
quote:
But not unfair.
It's stupid.
At least you aren't denying that.
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Don't attribute to me points I have not made and opinions I don't have.
You do have them. Your words are right there. For you to say "sitting one series per game is enough to account for two extra games" (paraphrased), that means you must think what I said you did. If not, your point hold no meaning. Making it stupid. Like I said.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 9:09 am
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