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re: There is absolutely no reason you don't kick the field goal with :30 left

Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:30 pm to
Nah. 2 passes in the end zone take 5 seconds. When you are that close you gotta try.
Drew fricked it up by throwing a check down to Ingram instead of throwing it away. No different than the chance you take of Graham missing a FG.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:31 pm to
Do you really still not understand how important those seconds are? You have to be trolling at this point.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:37 pm to
Please tell me how inportant 20 seconds vs 30 seconds is?

Like i said before:
20 seconds to score a FG is easier than 30 seconds to get a TD.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:39 pm to
It's incredibly important. You have to drive to get a FG. You don't need to drive to throw a Hail Mary, or at least not nearly as far. With under a minute lefts me no timeouts, kicking the FG as early as possible is the only chance you have.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:43 pm to
This post is hilarious though:

quote:

quote: No dude just give. Statically receiving an onside kick is 10% You're ignoring the fact that you can't Hail Mary a FG. We had no time outs and only needed a FG and a TD, so you take the FG to save as much time as possible to get the TD. You acting like you're infallibly right is hilarious.


You act like your opinion is indisputable.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:46 pm to
My way makes a thousand times more sense than yours. It just played out infront of you. You're to stupid to even get it apparently. Kicking the FG is the right decision for the exact reason of what happened today.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:54 pm to
Ok buddy because 10 seconds is the difference between me being stupid and you being thousand times more correct.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:57 pm to


It was pathetic all around. Yes, they got it close and I understand taking one shot at the end zone, but then they should've kicked the FG if they don't get the TD. How you don't understand that is pretty funny. Brees derped, like he has too many times this year, but trying the one shot wasn't bad IF dumbass throws it into the end zone and not underneath.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:57 pm to
Why do you not trust Graham with a long kick with :50, then act like he'd make it with less time? He has to kick it at some point. May as well do it to where you have the most time left to score a TD. I really dont see how you don't get it.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:03 pm to
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There is absolutely no reason you don't kick the field goal with :30 left
Um, yes there is. Why waste an entire series of chances to go for the TD? Only an idiot would waste chances for a TD by kicking a FG on first down.

The mistake - an inexcusable, incomprehensible mistake - was throwing underneath rather than throwing to the end zone. But going for the TD was the correct decision.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:05 pm to
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Why waste an entire series of chances to go for the TD?


Because you need a FG and a TD to win (not tie). With no timeouts, it makes the most sense to get either score as quickly as possible. Additionally, you can get a TD with a Hail Mary, unlike a FG. That makes kicking the FG as soon as possible the best chance at winning.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:18 pm to
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Do you really still not understand how important those seconds are?
Yes, they're critical. Chances to get the TD are important as well. Either way, you need a TD and a FG to win the game. Why waste perfectly good opportunities to go for the end zone?

Here's what you guys are advocating: You want to conserve time by sacrificing 3 red-zone chances to go for the end zone, only to use that conserved time to go for the end zone from the 40 or 50 yard line. Makes no sense whatsoever.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:18 pm to
Also, since you're using time on either possession (pre- and post-onside kick), it's worth mentioning that it takes less time to run end zone routes from inside the 10 yard line than it does from the 40 or 50.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Why waste perfectly good opportunities to go for the end zone?


See my post above. Ever second is critical, and you have to get one of those two scores. Why not save as much time as you can so you at least have 3 Hail Mary chances instead of 1, or none as the way it played out today? You need two scores.

Logic says score as quickly as possible to give yourself the most time to score again. The only reason you don't kick the FG is because you don't trust your kicker, but he has to kick a FG either way. Therefore, you get it out the way with as much time left as possible, especially considering it was a very makeable distance at that point.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 5:36 pm
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