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re: Sharpton, Obama and Holder have blood on their hands

Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:19 am to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48095 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:19 am to
You haven't called anyone out. You have basically said "Nuh-uh". Try articulating your argument and people here will engage you. Keep up with ad hominem and baseless, unsupported "arguments" you will continued to be called out for it.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:20 am to
Because you know the two aren't comparable


One is simply a member of a political party while the others are out inciting people to riot which is against the law
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:21 am to
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Earlier Friday, Mayor Bill de Blasio held a meeting with some of the organizers of the recent protests against a Staten Island grand jury’s decision not to indict an officer in the death of Eric Garner.

The mayor called the 40-minute meeting with members of Justice League NYC productive with both sides committed to healing, 1010 WINS Derricke Dennis reported.

The group presented a list of demands, including the elimination of the “broken windows” policing strategy in which officers target enforcement of smaller crimes to prevent more serious ones.

The mayor said he believes in the “broken windows” theory of policing and said he does not believe it unfairly targets minorities.

“I think we have a broader obligation as we continue reforms and the relationship between police and community and in our approach to policing, to make very clear that we will not accept unequal treatment,” de Blasio said.


Wait, what? You mean he disagreed with the groups demands and supported police tactics? Nah, couldn't be...
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

"They need to be leaders in making sure that there is no violence. They need to be leaders in making sure there is respect for our police officers who in fact have done in making sure that these protests were peaceful and orderly," Mayor de Blasio said.



Wait, what??? He made comments calling for peace? Nah, couldn't be
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:25 am to
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Wait, what? You mean he disagreed with the groups demands and supported police tactics? Nah, couldn't be...
Obviously, by supporting one of the NYPD's policies, De Blasio has turned his back on the NYPD! Blood is on his hands! ???

Am I doing it right?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:32 am to
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baseless, unsupported





You don't know what the frick you are talking about

Either you haven't read the thread or you have reading comprehension problems
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1858 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:33 am to
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But this wasn't a racist thing. None of the three people that this trash killed were white. 1 Black, 1 Asian, 1 Hispanic.


There's all kinds of wrong in this quote. 1) his girlfriend did not die, she's expected to recover. Only the 2 cops are dead.

2) Since when is a "hispanic" not a "white'? During the Zimmerman trial we were told they were the same.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:36 am to
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1) his girlfriend did not die, she's expected to recover.


NY Post still has up that she was murdered yesterday morning

quote:

Only the 2 cops are dead.


Ok, so one asian and one hispanic

quote:

Since when is a "hispanic" not a "white'? During the Zimmerman trial we were told they were the same.


and there it is! So people sit and bitch at the media referring to Zimmerman as white, when he is actually hispanic, yet in this instance, don't want to call someone hispanic.

Talk about a flip flop
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10444 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:39 am to
Lsut81....I have always agreed with you and consider you one of the most rationale people on this board. But I have to disagree with you on this topic. DeBlasio simply did not have the officers back on this from the get go. His initial comments should have put the flames out...but instead he fanned them causing a continued backlash against police officers. Instead of leading, he was following!!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:41 am to
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This is a group that NEVER has any consequences for their immoral actions.
I see what you're saying. I'd put it a bit differently.

Bobby Kennedy once said "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" It is a beautiful quote.

But the focus is entirely on "dream", not "result" or "attainment". The dream is wonderful, but if ascribed methods have no chance of attaining the dream, we've got a problem. Republicans tend to be solution focused, but that limits extent of the dream. It can produce a limited-sight vision. Both sides have merits. Both have vulnerabilities.

A major difference, as I see it, is GOP willingness to grant American individuals ability to pursue their own dreams. The GOP is willing to empower American exceptionalism. Dems often attempt to squelch it. While Dems have traditionally been more mindful of individual rights, etc. (Unfortunately of late, Dems are falling away from that tradition).
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:43 am to
quote:

I have always agreed with you and consider you one of the most rationale people on this board. But I have to disagree with you on this topic.




And you are free to do so

quote:

DeBlasio simply did not have the officers back on this from the get go. His initial comments should have put the flames out...but instead he fanned them causing a continued backlash against police officers. Instead of leading, he was following!!


Thank you for a rationale and thought out response.

I can see how he didn't have the officers backs, as many think he should have. But I don't associate that with him having blood on his hands.

I don't like the man and think he is a piece of shite for other reasons, but I think putting blame on him for a maniacs doings is uncalled for.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:43 am to
So a deranged guy in Baltimore was taking his queues from the mayor of NYC?

And as far as throwing gas on the fire cops around the country coming out publicly calling out people and athletes for protesting, making antagonistic tshirts....so what responsibility do the cops have in gassing the conflagration?
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:46 am to
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Sharpton, Obama and Holder have blood on their hands 



I don't see how anyone could say otherwise. This is the kind of racial hatered they've been trying to gin up.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Wait, what? You mean he disagreed with the groups demands and supported police tactics?
quote:

Nah, couldn't be...
Correct!

Otherwise, police would not respond like this to the mayor
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 9:50 am
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Posted by EmperorGout
White people have a pretty insurmountable lead in the body count department in the ole US of A





Don't say that!
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:51 am to
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Otherwise, police would not respond like this to the mayor


OMG, the cops don't like Deblasio... OMG, they turned their back on him


Doesn't mean that he doesn't support some of their tactics


HUGE swing and a miss... I expected better from you
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:53 am to
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OMG, the cops don't like Deblasio...
Don't like him?
They HATE him!

Why is that?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:55 am to
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No Way you believe that

No way I believe what?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:56 am to
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Government enforcers kill citizens that are breaking the law and attacking them....citizens kill cops sitting harmlessly in their car...

John Crawford wasn't breaking the law. Tamir Rice wasn't breaking the law. There's a long list of people who weren't breaking the law and were killed/assaulted by cops.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48095 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:58 am to
Is rice the one on video pointing a gun at people?
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