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re: What can be done to curtail this 18 wheeler problem?

Posted on 12/20/14 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Didn't see it was in Robert. The driving down the I-12 corridor is pretty bad though. Will say if it is actually produce, it very well have been a driver of Hispanic descent.


Yeah, at least you have no idea what you are talking about
Posted by BigAppleTiger
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 3:31 pm to
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I recently saw a video where a car cut in front of a semi (is was in the right lane), and the car laid on the brakes to make an exit ramp. The semi struck the rear of the car. Law enforcement reviewed the video and cited the car driver for reckless driving and held that the semi driver was not at fault. I just looked for the video so I could link it , but can't find it.
Something else to consider is that there are times when a semi driver sacrifices himself and his rig to avoid hitting a car. That is what often leads to the semi flipping over. As an example of what I mean is that if I'm traveling down the highway and a deer jumps out in front of me, I'm going to hit the deer and not swerve to avoid the deer and wind up jack knifeing or running off the road. If a car jumps out in front of me, I'm going to do all I can to avoid the car.
There are a lot of nimrod truck drivers, but many, many more impatient and reckless car drivers. You guys driving cars, sometimes give the semi drivers a break, don't speed up and cut in front of them and lay on the brakes to make that turn or make that exit. Wait behind him and make your turn, what's it going to cost you, 15 or 20 seconds in time?




Another 18 Wheeler apologist. It's not entirely the car drivers fault. I have seen less cars willing to cut in front of me than 18 Wheelers. The issue is the 18 Wheeler's use of mass and speed to intimidate other drivers. When a jacked up F150 with Bocephus driving passes me it actually PASSES ME... 18 wheelers just pull into the passing lane and don't have the ability to pass what they are trying to. Why don't they wait to pass instead of clogging lanes?
Posted by doublecutter
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 4:10 pm to
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18 wheelers just pull into the passing lane and don't have the ability to pass what they are trying to. Why don't they wait to pass instead of clogging lanes?



Big Apple, as a semi driver, I agree with you on that.

Everyone is always quick to blame the semi drivers f or accidents, clogging up traffic, etc. My point is that it is not always the semi driver who is to blame. In fact, I would say that most times, it is the autos fault.

And the m irons in this thread saying everything should be shipped by train, go I'd luck with that. I'd like to see a nationwide strike by semi drivers for a few days, and when the grocery shelves go empty, the gas stations tanks go dry, auto factories stop production, and all commerce starts to come to a halt the public would be begging semi drivers to go back to work.

And the moron who said in this thread that if that accident on 12 had produce it was most probably an Hispanic driver, that is the one of the most uninformed statements I have heard on the OT. What's he think, one of the Hispanics from the field stops picking the produce, jumps in a semi and drives it all the way from the Imperial Valley to I12 where he gets in a wreck. Lol
Posted by doublecutter
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 4:18 pm to
And if BR had a loop, one thing that would help the congestion in BR would be to direct all semis to take the loop if they were traveling through. It's like that in Atlanta, semis are not allowed inside the loops, unless they have a delivery or pickup inside the loop, and if you are stopped by LE and you don't have a BOL or other paperwork showing your destination, you receive a hefty fine.
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 4:40 pm to
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doublecutter
What can be done to curtail this 18 wheeler problem?
And if BR had a loop, one thing that would help the congestion in BR would be to direct all semis to take the loop if they were traveling through. It's like that in Atlanta, semis are not allowed inside the loops, unless they have a delivery or pickup inside the loop, and if you are stopped by LE and you don't have a BOL or other paperwork showing your destination, you receive a hefty fine.




I 12 is technically a loop around no......just saying
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 5:20 pm to
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And the moron who said in this thread that if that accident on 12 had produce it was most probably an Hispanic driver, that is the one of the most uninformed statements I have heard on the OT. What's he think, one of the Hispanics from the field stops picking the produce, jumps in a semi and drives it all the way from the Imperial Valley to I12 where he gets in a wreck. Lol
Bruh, they gave them their own CB channel because the mother frickers run like 20kW radios. Can't hear a fricking thing when the blacks and Mexicans get to talking
Posted by ALWho
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 5:25 pm to
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Another 18 Wheeler apologist. It's not entirely the car drivers fault.
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18 wheelers just pull into the passing lane and don't have the ability to pass what they are trying to.


There are idiot drivers on the road, and we all make mistakes but I hate a rolling road block.

About 3 years ago, I passed on the shoulder to get around two 18 wheelers because the one in the left lane was matching speed with the one in the right lane for close to 8 miles. The truck in the left lane had switched lanes several times before I caught up to it. By the time I decided to pass on the shoulder there was 65 mph traffic for over a mile in a 70 mph area. After I got around the 2 trucks and into the left lane I slowed to 55. I know I was a prick. I got thumbs up and hails by every vehicle passing, except the truck that had to slow down. For some reason he stayed behind the other 18 wheeler.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Everyone is always quick to blame the semi drivers f or accidents, clogging up traffic, etc. My point is that it is not always the semi driver who is to blame. In fact, I would say that most times, it is the autos fault.

And the m irons in this thread saying everything should be shipped by train, go I'd luck with that. I'd like to see a nationwide strike by semi drivers for a few days, and when the grocery shelves go empty, the gas stations tanks go dry, auto factories stop production, and all commerce starts to come to a halt the public would be begging semi drivers to go back to work.

And the moron who said in this thread that if that accident on 12 had produce it was most probably an Hispanic driver, that is the one of the most uninformed statements I have heard on the OT. What's he think, one of the Hispanics from the field stops picking the produce, jumps in a semi and drives it all the way from the Imperial Valley to I12 where he gets in a wreck. Lol



I can agree with you on many things in your post. The good semi drivers are as invisible as no one notices them much. I don't think it is always the semi driver to blame- but in my experience there is a higher probability of a semi driver noticing an upcoming car in the passing lane and quickly(as quickly as they can)changing lanes just to cut off the passing lane driver so they won't be held up. Car drivers may do the same maneuver, but they don't have weight, length, or lack of torque to impede others. I find the attitude of a lot of semi driver's to be very small town sheriff in that they really don't act as if repercussions matter or they just don't care. There are many good invisible semi drivers out there but I find a higher percentage arrogant drivers to be among them(probably the same ration as jacked up F150 drivers).
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:21 pm to
There is a state law in LA now that trucks are not to be in the left lane except for passing,

It is not being enforced

SO change the law to prohibit them from being in the left lane
Posted by doublecutter
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:25 pm to
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Relative Contribution/Fault in Car-Truck Crashes
February, 2013
The principal policy reason for evaluating fault, and the nature of errors that increase crash risk, is to design and implement cost-effective truck safety programs that yield the greatest safety benefits. In the context of prevention, it’s critical to understand relative fault since cars are involved in the majority of truck crashes. Over time, numerous studies have been conducted by federal agencies, universities, trade associations and independent researchers that utilized, at least in part, Police Accident Reports (PAR) to investigate contribution/fault, informing the design and implementation of fleet safety programs nationwide. The following summary highlights the results of four preeminent organizations in the field of vehicle crash causality.
University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute (UMTRI): UMTRI is a leader in truck-related crash research. The highlighted study assigns driver factors to 8,309 fatal car-truck crashes as a proxy for fault.
• Car drivers were assigned factors in 81% of crashes versus 27% of truck drivers
• The totals are greater than 100% because 10% of crashes assigned both the car and truck driver factors
• Cars were the encroaching vehicle in 89% of head-on crashes, 88% of opposite-direction sideswipes, 80% of rear-end crashes, and 72% of same-direction sideswipes—obvious indicators of fault
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA): Tasked with “reducing deaths, injuries and economic losses resulting from motor vehicle crashes,” NHTSA has undertaken extensive research on the topic. Their 2003 study assigned causal driver factors in 10,092 fatalities.
• Cars were assigned driver factors in 91% of head-on crashes, 91% of opposite-direction sideswipes, 71% of rear-end crashes, and 77% of same-direction sideswipes
• Trucks were the encroaching vehicle in 98% of backing accidents (represents less than 1% of sample set)
AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety: The foundation’s mission is “to identify traffic safety problems, foster research that seeks solutions and disseminate information and educational materials.” This study, one of over 250 projects they’ve funded to discover the causes of crashes, examined 10,732 fatal accidents.
• 36% of car drivers were cited for two or more unsafe acts
• 11% of truck drivers were cited for two or more unsafe acts
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA): FMCSA is the primary regulating agency for the trucking industry whose stated mission is “to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.” Two studies are noted below.
Annual Large Truck and Bus Crash Facts: Cites driver factors in 6,131 car-truck fatal crashes
• 2007: 85% of cars were assigned driver factors versus 26% of trucks
• 2008: 85% of cars were assigned driver factors versus 26% of trucks
• 2009: 81% of cars were assigned driver factors versus 22% of trucks
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:37 pm to
TL;DR

I'll assume it says truckers suck
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:48 pm to
Oh yeah I passed that wreck on my way home today. Will upload my pic. Sat in traffic for way too long
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:49 pm to
I forgot you're from the best place on earth.

Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:54 pm to
Definitely the 18 wheeler's fault
Posted by MadMaxwell
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:55 pm to
They're so cute when they're asleep.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:00 pm to
I passed the 18 wheeler on its side by the Hammond exit earlier this week, and then this one today. I'm getting tired of it.
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:03 pm to
Me too

Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:19 pm to
This is related to stop signs how?
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:36 pm to
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What can be done to curtail this 18 wheeler problem?


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