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re: Most overpaid/ underperforming coaches in College...
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:56 am to ellessuuuu
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:56 am to ellessuuuu
quote:
The rant knows how to read the win/loss column. It's ashame some of you morons can't get the sunshine out of your eyes long enough to realize the only numbers that matter are showing a decline. 6-2,5-3 and 4-4. It's really that simple.
Hey while you are cherry picking stats why not just say we are 0-3 against teams that start with the letter A. Would that make you feel better?
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:58 am to ironsides
No but we are 0-4 against the class of our division in the last 3 years.
How the hell is citing our conference record for the last thee years 'cherry picking'?
How the hell is citing our conference record for the last thee years 'cherry picking'?
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 7:59 am
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:00 am to ellessuuuu
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No but we are 0-4 against the class of our division in the last 3 years.
Guess one of those losses was so painful that the NCAA decided to vacate the win.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:01 am to chilge1
Which win was that, and did it come in the last three years?
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:02 am to ironsides
quote:
cherry picking stats
You're right I should break out our W-L record against rent a wins. Maybe we should create a National Championship playoff for teams with overpaid coaching staffs playing against rent a wins.
Proviso is you have to throw the conference W-L record out of consideration.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:02 am to ellessuuuu
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Which win was that, and did it come in the last three years?
How do you lose 4 games when you've only played 3?
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:06 am to chilge1
I'm not great at math but 1-9-12 was three years ago. If it makes you feel better we can say we are 3-6 against the class of our division since Saban got there. Of course one of those wins came in a year when neither of us were in contention (2010). Or 1-4 in the last four seasons. It really doesn't matter how you slice it up we are being owned by one team in our division.
And as of late we also picking up at least one loss per year to a team outside the top 25.
And as of late we also picking up at least one loss per year to a team outside the top 25.
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 8:11 am
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:14 am to TigerGman
quote:A comparison of Big Ten and SEC-W teams in terms of "productivity" is beyond dumb!
Dumb?
It isn't dumb, it's self-evident.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:15 am to ellessuuuu
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I'm not great at math but 1-9-12 was three years ago
Clearly. Today is 12-20-14.
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It really doesn't matter how you slice it up we are being owned by one team in our division.
So is the rest of the Division, Conference, and Country. Is the sole measure of our season how we perform against Alabama?
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:18 am to chilge1
Absolutely, being competitive in your own division is pretty important. We have not been year in and year out competitive against the best team in our division for the last 5 years and we have not really been in serious contention for the division title since the first weekend in November of 2012.
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 8:19 am
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:19 am to ellessuuuu
quote:Yet you are comparing that with Big Ten teams? Which of Ohio State's B-10 opponents are "class of the division"?
If it makes you feel better we can say we are 3-6 against the class of our division
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:20 am to NC_Tigah
We don't play in the Big 10. We play in the SEC and pay SEC money. So our measure of success should be what we do in the SEC.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:29 am to ellessuuuu
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So our measure of success should be what we do in the SEC.
How this elementary concept bypasses anyone is beyond comprehension.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:35 am to ellessuuuu
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We have not been year in and year out competitive against the best team in our division for the last 5 years
I'm sorry but this is bullshite. We may not have won much but we're the only team in the conference that annually goes toe-to-to with them.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:35 am to TigerGman
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I'm pretty sure the W-L record in the SEC the last three years is the only "metric" that means a thing.
At the end of the day, this is the only stat that matters (conference and overall). This has been the long debate on here (style vs result), but W-L is it. Since 1/9/12, it's been lower than it should be.
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 8:36 am
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:36 am to TigerGman
Does LSU play Defense and Special Teams too?
How have we done with this "offense only" ranking system in the past?
I love miserable fans, BTW.
How have we done with this "offense only" ranking system in the past?
I love miserable fans, BTW.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:42 am to ItsThatDude12
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Posted by ItsThatDude12
Just STFU dude it's only proving that you don't know jack shite.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:44 am to ItsThatDude12
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You're not allowed to post stuff like this here.
1. Miles is the winnigest coach in LSU history.
2. Best OOC record in coaching.
3. Can't compare vs Bama bc they're just too good,
fans expectations are unrealistic.
4. We're young, just like 2012-2013.
5. Who do you want to hire if you don't like our current coaching staff?
6. No one we can hire would beat Bama.
7. But we really kept it close vs Bama in 2012/2014.
8. This is the golden age of LSU football do you remember the 90's ?
9. Just wait until next year
Even though it's dripping with sarcasm, those are all the legit points of optimism.
It isn't that people can't/shouldn't post negative or critical things, it's the level of logic that's often crap.
I don't see many people trashing legit criticism of the QB development situation (current or historical), but to assume Miles picks the worse QB of the two he sees every day in practice is dumb.
Also, name me a coach and staff that could come in and do a better overall job vs Saban and Bama (besides maybe Saban).
Should we lose to Arky? No
Should we lose to any school with Miss in the name? Probably not
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 8:46 am
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:44 am to ironsides
What are you talking about?
I'm just getting that out of the way so we don't have to have it all posted in numerous posts.
I'm just getting that out of the way so we don't have to have it all posted in numerous posts.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:45 am to ellessuuuu
quote:As opposed to Big-10 or Big-12 money?
We play in the SEC and pay SEC money
Alabama - SEC - Nick Saban - $6,950,203
Michigan State - Big Ten - Mark Dantonio - $5,611,845
Oklahoma - Big 12 - Bob Stoops - $5,058,333
Texas A&M - SEC - Kevin Sumlin - $5,000,000
Texas - Big 12 - Charlie Strong - $5,000,000
Ohio State - Big Ten - Urban Meyer - $4,486,640
LSU - SEC - Les Miles - $4,300,000
Penn State - Big Ten - James Franklin - $4,300,000
Iowa - Big Ten - Kirk Ferentz - $4,075,000
Texas Christian - Big 12 - Gary Patterson - $4,008,150
South Carolina - SEC - Steve Spurrier - $4,000,000
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