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re: Dept. of Justice announces new interpretation of the Civil Rights Act
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:26 am to onmymedicalgrind
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:26 am to onmymedicalgrind
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DMS-V is out there for anybody to see--go ahead and check it out and tell me if I'm wrong (you won't bc I'm not
To suggest that The DSM-V is factual relative to gender identity disorders is laughable.
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:27 am to Paluka
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What's funny is that I have treated gender identity disorder, delusional disorders and many other mental disorders over the last 20 years. What's even funnier is that you are willing to be dishonest about the subjective experience so you won't be wrong.
I'm not even sure what you are trying to say here. If you treated gender dysphoria you should know the diagnostic criteria. And if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me. Not sure where the disconnect is.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:28 am to onmymedicalgrind
Reality by consensus. One of my favorites.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:29 am to Paluka
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To suggest that The DSM-V is factual relative to gender identity disorders is laughable.
Like it or not, DSM is king in the psychiatric world. And the OP brought up "clinically recognized mental disorders" which is why I brought up the DSM-V.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:31 am to Iosh
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People with heart disease who take statins still carry a vastly inflated risk of myocardial infarction compared to the general population. Oddly, we still prescribe them.
Statins aren't curative to the underlying problem. Neither is chopping off your pecker.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:31 am to onmymedicalgrind
DSM is full of shite and incongruent with its diagnostic and assessment criteria with respect to trannies and other illnesses.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 1:32 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:32 am to the808bass
quote:You're off by a factor of ten.
I'm gonna make a guess that it's about 20 times the rate of the normal population.
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Although the suicide attempt-rate dropped significantly from 29.3% to 5.1% (McNemar test, N = 58, P = 0.004), it was definitively higher than in the average population (0.15%)
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 1:33 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:33 am to Tiguar
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DSM is full of shite and incongruent with its diagnostic and assessment criteria with respect to trannies and other illnesses.
Ok. Care to elaborate specifically why it is full of shite besides the fact you disagree with it. And what "other illnesses" are you referring to?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:38 am to the808bass
quote:I've linked about eight papers in this thread. You've linked one op-ed, whose underlying paper doesn't even make the point you were citing it for.
Reality by consensus. One of my favorites.
You learn the damndest things when you follow the totality of the evidence instead of ignoring whatever doesn't reaffirm your gut instinct.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:46 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Ok. Care to elaborate specifically why it is full of shite besides the fact you disagree with it. And what "other illnesses" are you referring to?
The DSMV has been criticized for its lack of empirical backing. Even with the gender issues the studied group consisted of about 150 people (going from memory).
There are only 2 criteria that have to met for a diagnosis. It's absurd.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:49 am to Paluka
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The DSMV has been criticized for its lack of empirical backing. Even with the gender issues the studied group consisted of about 150 people (going from memory).
There are only 2 criteria that have to met for a diagnosis. It's absurd.
Ok how about the DSM-IV? GID in that version also had the "significant distress/functional impairment" criteria necessary for diagnosis.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 1:50 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:49 am to Paluka
What do you think of the Justice Department's policy decision regarding transgenders in the workplace?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:56 am to onmymedicalgrind
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I'm not even sure what you are trying to say here. If you treated gender dysphoria you should know the diagnostic criteria. And if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me. Not sure where the disconnect is.
The disconnect occurs because you are quoting the status quo as if it was accurate. Many males and females struggle greatly with the decision to have reassignment surgery. Like many people they have good experiences as they are and bad experiences as they are. The functional problems or subjective discomfort are an ever-changing Mark. Of course, you have to separate out those who are really histrionic or borderline personalities.
My point is that you can throw the DSM-V out the window. Criteria are nice but not accurate. There data is pathetic. In addition, just because you repeatedly cite two diagnostic criteria as fact does not mean they are actually supported by research.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:03 am to reverendotis
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What do you think of the Justice Department's policy decision regarding transgenders in the workplace?
The Americans with disabilities act covers such matters. Their policy decision is counterproductive. It only creates problems.
Common sense dictates that if a person is a good employee and represents the business in a professional and appropriate manner then they ought to be retained.
If the individual is undergoing reassignment then their team will address this with the employer. It's not like the employee just shows up to work one day as a different person. It is all done very carefully and deliberately. In other words, the DOJ just said "hey! Look over there!" It's just bullshite.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:05 am to Paluka
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My point is that you can throw the DSM-V out the window.
Why? OP is the one who first brought up DSM without knowing he brought it up.
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Criteria are nice but not accurate.
This sentence is meaningless without further clarification. Accurate in what sense?
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There data is pathetic.
You keep saying this, but can you be more specific?
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In addition, just because you repeatedly cite two diagnostic criteria as fact does not mean they are actually supported by research.
What does the research suppport?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:13 am to Paluka
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It's not like the employee just shows up to work one day as a different person. It is all done very carefully and deliberately.
A good friend of mine works for a subsidiary of Lockheed. That is precisely the opposite of what happened not that long ago.
Coworker cashed in vacation time, sick leave & Christmas break to turn from Charlie to Charlene and didn't tell a soul beforehand.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:20 am to reverendotis
Bad news for people who choose to concern themselves with the gender identities and sexualities of others.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:31 am to ballscaster
Unless you are a hermaphrodite, your gender identity is determined for you by the presence of a penis or a vagina.
At issue is whether employers can consider the underlying mental illness of people who refuse to accept their gender identity - in some cases to the point of mutilating themselves.
At issue is whether employers can consider the underlying mental illness of people who refuse to accept their gender identity - in some cases to the point of mutilating themselves.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:44 am to reverendotis
quote:Like I said, bad news for people like you.
Unless you are a hermaphrodite, your gender identity is determined for you by the presence of a penis or a vagina.
At issue is whether employers can consider the underlying mental illness of people who refuse to accept their gender identity - in some cases to the point of mutilating themselves.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:53 am to ballscaster
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Like I said, bad news for people like you.
Indeed it is bad news for me and all the other sane, sober minded and rational people in this great nation.
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