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re: CPA firm's analysis shows higher taxes needed to support St George City

Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:35 pm to
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Then you have all the people who live in unincorporated areas not included. That'll be a big "no" from them.



Which residential areas are not included?
Posted by Buttoncollector
S'boro
Member since Jun 2011
576 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:42 pm to
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And in that post you accuse me of violating the founding principles of our country,


Principle 21 - Strong local self-government is the keystone to preserving human freedom. "The way to have good and safe government is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent [to perform best]. - Thomas Jefferson

My opinion is that you are trying to suppress the vote by actively campaigning against the end result before the vote is even assured.......you don't see it that way I got it but you are wrong this is what you have been doing.

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Then you lump me with John Delgado, who I despise and fought to keep from being elected and failed.


I am a fan of yours for this opinion. Sorry for the offense, I wouldn't want to be associated with him either. I'm sure there is something that I would unfortunately agree with him on too so I can't hold that against you.

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If you're going to dish out shite, then be prepared to have shite thrown back at you.


I certainly didn't think I was throwing shite but I don't have a problem having it thrown at me. It doesn't really accomplish much unless your blood pressure really gets wild because of this, mine does not.

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swell guy.


See I take this as sarcasm and maybe name calling and I do believe that makes it a form of bullying. To be fair I think more specifically you are engaging in cyber bullying.
Posted by Buttoncollector
S'boro
Member since Jun 2011
576 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:47 pm to
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Anyone who has posted on this board for any length of time knows that I am an ardent opponent of the library board taxes, BREC's taxes and the CATS' tax.


I never said you weren't. I'm not making personal attacks. Maybe that is your MO so much you don't recognize that I'm not acting the same as you?

The library tax is a symptom of the overall problem. I've admitted it is a unique issue.

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Tell us, where does this money for higher teacher salaries come from?


As I mentioned, by not spending money on Wifi to every nook and cranny of every School in the system and other issues of similar small impact. And obviously as you keep pointing out I am willing to pay more taxes for better schools that are better managed.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:52 pm to
I hope you're laughing at Asgard. I had hoped he knew there were NO contiguous residential areas left out.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:56 pm to
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"The way to have good and safe government is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent [to perform best]. - Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson wanted states to have the ultimate power, not the Federal government. If you think Jefferson's quote supports the idea of every neighborhood being a city, then I can't discuss anything with you.
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To be fair I think more specifically you are engaging in cyber bullying.
Get over yourself, swell guy. Maybe posting on an anonymous political message board is too traumatic for your delicate sensibilities.

FYI, don't post on the O-T. You'll have a nervous breakdown if you do....
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:58 pm to
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I had hoped he knew there were NO contiguous residential areas left out.
He didn't insert the word "contiguous." You did....which proves you now have learned how stupid your question was.

And that's why I was laughing at you.

Like this:
Posted by Buttoncollector
S'boro
Member since Jun 2011
576 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:58 pm to
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FYI, don't post on the O-T. You'll have a nervous breakdown if you do....


Well noted I try to stick to defending the right to shoot deer for meat not horns on the OB and I can barely take the name calling and abuse there
Posted by Buttoncollector
S'boro
Member since Jun 2011
576 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:02 pm to
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If you think Jefferson's quote supports the idea of every neighborhood being a city, then I can't discuss anything with you.


If he was envisioning a population of >300 million as opposed to <3 million in this country I do think he would have supported the rights and importance down to the city level. I wish he was around to clarify
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:04 pm to
You can't be "left out" of something that's not legal for you to be included in. Unlike the city of BR, SG doesn't use railroad tracks to make its boundaries contiguous. So again, I ask, what residential areas were "left out"?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:05 pm to
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I'm not making personal attacks.
BS.

You started with personal attacks on me in your very first reply to me. And I responded accordingly.

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by not spending money on Wifi to every nook and cranny of every School in the system
When every school in the country is trying to be able to access digital content in the classrooms you want EBR to be left behind? And THAT is your solution to achieve a better school system?

Okay, I'm done with you. You're unreasonable in your logic. You're making up and misquoting Thomas Jefferson to fit your agenda. And nothing I can say will change your mind and you bet for damn sure there's nothing you can post that will change mine. So, bye.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:09 pm to
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So again, I ask, what residential areas were "left out"?
Have you even looked at a map of East Baton Rouge Parish? It doesn't seem like you have.

Or are you under the impression that the proposed SG city limits encompass the entire unincorporated areas of East Baton Rouge Parish?? You cannot be serious.

Hence, again:
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:09 pm to
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I hope you're laughing at Asgard. I had hoped he knew there were NO contiguous residential areas left out.


Who said anything about contiguous? I am just telling you that people in unincorporated areas who aren't in SG will vote against the school district. Your rhetoric is getting laughable.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:11 pm to
Re-read what I said. There are no residential areas that could be legally contiguous that were left out.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:13 pm to
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Who said anything about contiguous?
Sprocket did, not you. Now he's trying to save face by twisting what you and what he wrote.
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Your rhetoric is getting laughable.
It always is. Remember he's the guy who posted last May the SG organizers had the signatures they needed and were going to submit them the day before the Mall of Louisiana was incorporated because that would stop the incorporation.
Posted by Buttoncollector
S'boro
Member since Jun 2011
576 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:13 pm to
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And nothing I can say will change your mind and you bet for damn sure there's nothing you can post that will change mine.


I wasn't trying to change your mind...is that what you were doing? Trying to change my mind? Sorry now I get your frustration I will go back to the OB

Bye Russian sweet dreams
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:14 pm to
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Remember he's the guy who posted last May the SG organizers had the signatures they needed and were going to submit them the day before the Mall of Louisiana was incorporated because that would stop the incorporation.


Liar. I never said how many signatures we had, at any point in time. Scott McKay of the Hayride is the person who wrote the editorial about turning in the signatures early. I linked the article.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:16 pm to
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I am just telling you that people in unincorporated areas who aren't in SG will vote against the school district. Your rhetoric is getting laughable.


Your assumptions of how people will vote are what's laughable. Those people never had any expectations of being included in SG, and they certainly don't feel "left out" of what they could never legally be part of.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:16 pm to
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Re-read what I said. There are no residential areas that could be legally contiguous that were left out.

That had NOTHING to do with Asgard's comment about the unincorporated areas of the parish will be in opposition to a SG ISD.

Keep going. My side is starting to ache.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Re-read what I said. There are no residential areas that could be legally contiguous that were left out.


Dude. I was giving you a break-down for how the vote would go because you seem clueless to the fact that it will get shot down in a parish-wide vote.

Harp on semantics all you want. It doesn't make you any less naive or dishonest.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:17 pm to
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sweet dreams
I'm not going to bed. I've got a conference call at 1 AM with some business associates in Moscow and Brussels.
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