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re: When do you know that someone is an alcoholic?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:12 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:12 pm to SabiDojo
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Probably not, but if it's someone you care about, it's tough to not say anything.
This is what we've been talking about.
He works with another friend of mine, and it's not confirmed, but he thinks he goes home and drinks during lunch sometimes. In fact, he's almost positive. He is a finance guy, and his work isn't really stressful or anything, and if he does drink during the day, it doesn't hurt his work performance.
But, if you have to go home during the day to drink, that's where we think we should get involved.
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:14 pm to LOCO5150
If he drinks "at least a fifth a night" I find it hard to believe he can go days without drinking and he is probably an alcoholic.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:16 pm to LOCO5150
It doesn't need to affect work for it to be a problem. If you're drinking a fifth a night, you'll be dead in 15 years, if you're lucky.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:16 pm to RadTiger
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CAGE questionnaire
The questionnaire asks the following questions:
1. Have you ever felt you needed to Cut down on your drinking?
2. Have people Annoyed you by criticizing your drinking?
3. Have you ever felt Guilty about drinking?
4. Have you ever felt you needed a drink first thing in the morning (Eye-opener) to steady your nerves or to get rid of a hangover?
I think he would probably honestly answer no to all of those questions. He doesn't really "over drink" around us...just when he's home alone I guess, and possibly at lunch.
LQ is slang for Liquor Store.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:17 pm to LOCO5150
How good of a friend is he?It's a tough call.I've had a few friends that were "functional alcoholics" for years.
One switched from whiskey to beer after 25 years and is still alive.
The other stayed on vodka and died a horrible death a few years ago.
Good luck with it.
eta:No one will quit something they enjoy because their friends or family want them to.
They have to want to.
One switched from whiskey to beer after 25 years and is still alive.
The other stayed on vodka and died a horrible death a few years ago.
Good luck with it.
eta:No one will quit something they enjoy because their friends or family want them to.
They have to want to.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:18 pm to LOCO5150
You and your friends sound like dicks.
Leave the guy alone.
Eta: not kidding at all
Leave the guy alone.
Eta: not kidding at all
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:21 pm to LOCO5150
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He doesn't really "over drink" around us...just when he's home alone
How do you know this?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:22 pm to tidalmouse
He's a good friend of our group. College buddy of one of my friends. They work together, and we've all been pretty good friends for years.
Vodka is his drink.
In college he would binge like everyone, but just beer back then. Now...vodka.
Vodka is his drink.
In college he would binge like everyone, but just beer back then. Now...vodka.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:23 pm to LOCO5150
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In college he would binge like everyone, but just beer back then. Now...vodka.
He'll be lucky to get to the 15 year mark.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:25 pm to LOCO5150
The fact that you said he can go days w/o drinking makes me think he's gotta under control.
I worked with a raging alcoholic. Super smart guy but a lush nonetheless. He drank crown and everyone morning you could smell it all over him. The rare days that he came in sober he'd go drink at lunch and you could easily smell it. If your friend was drinking at lunch you would smell it.
Has his girlfriend ever said anything? If anyone would know she would.
I worked with a raging alcoholic. Super smart guy but a lush nonetheless. He drank crown and everyone morning you could smell it all over him. The rare days that he came in sober he'd go drink at lunch and you could easily smell it. If your friend was drinking at lunch you would smell it.
Has his girlfriend ever said anything? If anyone would know she would.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:27 pm to Jones
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How do you know this?
I witnessed him buy a fifth from the Liquor store without ever saying a word. He just pulled up to the window, and she came over and handed him a fifth of vodka. He paid with exact change, and the clerk said.."see you tomorrow".
Multiple empty bottles of vodka in his very small trash can after he said he had taken out the trash a couple of days ago.
If he's depressed he hasn't shown it. He hasn't really said anything to any of us about anything bothering him.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:31 pm to LOCO5150
Friend of mine gets hammered every weekend (he's in his 40s). He also drinks every night to at least a buzz. He has a 9-5 job and does ok, but is unmarried and lives alone.
A local liquor store (that doesn't deliver), has an employee who is so familiar with him that he will deliver him beer if my friend is too drunk to drive -- for $20.
My friend is in denial about his drinking.
A local liquor store (that doesn't deliver), has an employee who is so familiar with him that he will deliver him beer if my friend is too drunk to drive -- for $20.
My friend is in denial about his drinking.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:37 pm to LOCO5150
Every "hardcore" alcoholic I've known ended up with vodka.
The guy I knew ended up drinking vodka day and night.Slowly dying at 54.His organs shut down lying in a hospital bed.
I saw him with the shakes.He was staying at a buddy's house.They were giving him 1 1/2 oz every 4 hours.I've never seen anyone freaking out like that.
One of the nicest guys I've known.Everyone loved him.
The guy I knew ended up drinking vodka day and night.Slowly dying at 54.His organs shut down lying in a hospital bed.
I saw him with the shakes.He was staying at a buddy's house.They were giving him 1 1/2 oz every 4 hours.I've never seen anyone freaking out like that.
One of the nicest guys I've known.Everyone loved him.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:37 pm to LOCO5150
Yeah, it is time for you guys to step in.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:40 pm to crimsonsaint
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If your friend was drinking at lunch you would smell it.
It's not as easy to smell it on people that drink vodka. That's one reason why a lot of alcoholics go that route, and it being clear makes it easier to sneak into other drinks unnoticed.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:41 pm to LOCO5150
I'm wondering how you feel that you need to say something at all?
He's not fricking with your life, he seems to be handling a job, he's not in trouble with the law...
Mind your God damned business.
He's not fricking with your life, he seems to be handling a job, he's not in trouble with the law...
Mind your God damned business.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:42 pm to LOCO5150
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Liquor store
Not sure what's more annoying, you capitalizing "liquor" or using the term "LQ"?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:43 pm to yankeeundercover
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He's not fricking with your life, he seems to be handling a job, he's not in trouble with the law...
Mind your God damned business
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:44 pm to Walt OReilly
Walt, I thought you have documented your substance abuse on the OT
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:44 pm to gaetti15
He may not be now, but he will be soon.
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