re: Are Teachers Underpaid?

Tenure is no more and I don't know a teacher that doesn't have a summer job.

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Every single person who says no, I hate teachers etc, all admit they could never do the job, would kill the kids, etc. And yes troll thread.

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Could do the job? Yes

Would do the job? No

I actually have a degree in something worth a shite.

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The qualification for being a teacher is being unqualified for any respectable job. If they were respectable people, they wouldn't be teachers. 

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Statements like this make me feel bad about my genetic abilities, given that people who say shite like this came out of the fricking womb knowing how to solve complex math and physics problems without being taught by any teachers at all. Lucky bastards.

Yet lets NOT blame parenting again.................

I like how you're just yelling out random comments that have nothing to do with the thread.

I've considered being a teacher

What is the avg. teachers' salary? 40k? With 8 months of work? That's the equivalent of being paid 60k annually for a regular 12 month, full time job.

I understand that they don't get paid during the 4 months' worth of breaks, but no shite, they aren't working and thus shouldn't.

So maybe underpaid in the sense that their annual salary is low, but when you factor in that it's pretty decent considering their time worked, it's really not low.

And it is a job that just about EVERYONE can do. Would people want to do it (dealing with kids all day etc.) is another question. But most everyone, specifically college graduates, have the mental aptitude and abilities to be a teacher. No one wants to be a janitor and deal with that job either, doesn't mean they should make bank.

Teachers shouldn't even want to be paid. If salaries were raised significantly, most of the full time teachers now, would be replaced by brighter/more talented individuals who would now view teaching as a more desirable profession.

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What is the avg. teachers' salary? 40k?

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Nationally it's higher. Around 56k. Here's a chart that shows each State's avg. teacher pay and how it's changed over the past 40 years.

My wife makes about 47K for about 190 duty days of work. This includes teacher development days. This does not include time put in at home because most professionals have to work "extra" these days.

So that's $247.37/day, or, given an 8 hour work day, that's $30.92 an hour. I work approx 249 days a year (260 days less 11 holidays) - we'll call this duty days to have an even metric. If I made $30.92 an hour my pay would be $61,595.

For a college educated person, that seems low.

But, I think the real issues are this:

1) Crappy teachers get paid the same as awesome teachers, if years of exp and education are the same.

2) There's little annual pay growth. We pay our first year accounting staff less per duty day than a first year teacher makes per duty day. But a 30 year experienced partner makes 5x? 7x? 10x? What a 30 year experienced teacher makes.