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re: Prediction: Obama will set a record for Presidential Pardons
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:40 pm to son of arlo
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:40 pm to son of arlo
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RWR, aka the greatest POTUS in my lifetime, pardoned Merle Haggard
Something I didn't know. Thanks
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:59 pm to udtiger
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issue pardons in the TENS OF THOUSANDS to non-violent drug offenders
Support.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:15 pm to Chappy
Lois Lerner must feel lonesome as she sips her Earl Grey waiting for the phone to ring.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:24 pm to udtiger
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look for him to issue pardons in the TENS OF THOUSANDS to non-violent drug offenders during that time.
Nope. He just opened trade with Cuba. There's no way he actually does TWO good things in his 8 years as president.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:13 pm to Hawkeye95
If we were to consider granting amnesty for the crime of illegal immigration a type of pardon, then the record has already been set. Though that relies a lot on semantics.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:38 pm to MJM
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Good non-violent drug offenders deserve to be pardoned
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:40 pm to Hawkeye95
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ok, so maybe he clips 100.
It'll definitely be in the thousands. Probably not tens of thousands though. Prisoners incarcerated in federal institutions for non-violent crimes who have served at least 10 years already, have clean records while in prison, and no significant violent acts in their background before the charges they were convicted and currently in prison for, will qualify for the clemency program announced earlier this year.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:45 pm to son of arlo
Haggards record sales took a dive afterwards.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:46 pm to Holden Caulfield
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Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich, at Eric Holder's urging was one of the more egregious I can recall.
Apparently you don't recall the pardons by his predecessor:
quote:LINK
WASHINGTON, Dec. 24 -- Six years after the arms-for-hostages scandal began to cast a shadow that would darken two Administrations, President Bush today granted full pardons to six former officials in Ronald Reagan's Administration, including former Defense Secretary Caspar W. Weinberger.
Mr. Weinberger was scheduled to stand trial on Jan. 5 on charges that he lied to Congress about his knowledge of the arms sales to Iran and efforts by other countries to help underwrite the Nicaraguan rebels, a case that was expected to focus on Mr. Weinberger's private notes that contain references to Mr. Bush's endorsement of the secret shipments to Iran.
In one remaining facet of the inquiry, the independent prosecutor, Lawrence E. Walsh, plans to review a 1986 campaign diary kept by Mr. Bush. Mr. Walsh has characterized the President's failure to turn over the diary until now as misconduct.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:50 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Apparently you don't recall the pardons by his predecessor:
You seriously just compared Cap Weinberger with Marc Rich?
Holy Sh.....!
Posted on 12/18/14 at 6:31 pm to udtiger
I said here a few months ago that Obama's pardon list was going to awe inspiring. It's going to be incredible.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:56 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Mr. Weinberger was scheduled to stand trial on Jan. 5 on charges that he lied to Congress about his knowledge of the arms sales to Iran and efforts by other countries to help underwrite the Nicaraguan rebels,
We all know how to handle that these days. Just assert the 5th after claiming innocence.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:00 pm to udtiger
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issue pardons in the TENS OF THOUSANDS to non-violent drug offenders during that time.
Good. But "tens of thousands"? You're a verifiable loon.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:04 pm to udtiger
Will that include those little ghost captured in Ghost busters to?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:10 pm to udtiger
OP is an idiot and doesn't realize it, but decent topic.
I really hope Obama does set some major records there. Our incarceration rate is a joke and embarrassment. I would say the majority of Americans in prison should not be there as it is now.
All the drug offenders being in jail is pathetic.
I really hope Obama does set some major records there. Our incarceration rate is a joke and embarrassment. I would say the majority of Americans in prison should not be there as it is now.
All the drug offenders being in jail is pathetic.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:58 pm to NHTIGER
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It'll definitely be in the thousands. Probably not tens of thousands though. Prisoners incarcerated in federal institutions for non-violent crimes who have served at least 10 years already, have clean records while in prison, and no significant violent acts in their background before the charges they were convicted and currently in prison for, will qualify for the clemency program announced earlier this year.
You sure about that? Clemency?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:20 pm to Sentrius
War on drugs must end...
Otherwise it's not really a war
Otherwise it's not really a war
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:27 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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OP is an idiot and doesn't realize it, but decent topic.
I really hope Obama does set some major records there. Our incarceration rate is a joke and embarrassment. I would say the majority of Americans in prison should not be there as it is now.
All the drug offenders being in jail is pathetic
Great Posts
I would say it takes away from legitimizing our judicial system and places police in more danger. Naturally, this in turn places average citizens in danger because of over stressed and under trained police officers in these poorer neighborhoods.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:56 am to udtiger
A speculative guess on pardons? That's the best you can do?
Face the facts he's done a great job as our president and carried himself with way more class than I would have given the critcism he's received over a mess he inherited.
Stop grabbing for straws it looks pathetic.
Face the facts he's done a great job as our president and carried himself with way more class than I would have given the critcism he's received over a mess he inherited.
Stop grabbing for straws it looks pathetic.
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