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Prediction: Obama will set a record for Presidential Pardons

Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 1:58 pm
In the next 2 years, Obama will be churning out pardons like there is no tomorrow. In an effort to swell the voting ranks for Democrats in key electoral states, look for him to issue pardons in the TENS OF THOUSANDS to non-violent drug offenders during that time.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:00 pm to
I hope he pardons every black prisoner in the federal system. The melt will be awesome.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:00 pm to
Just a guess but I suspect Eric Holder has a long list to send to obama.
Posted by skinny domino
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:13 pm to
How does his record on pardons compare to the last four presidents, at this stage in their terms?
Posted by skinny domino
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:14 pm to
How does his record on pardons compare to the last four presidents, at this stage in their terms?
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:14 pm to
He's like LeBron!
Posted by MJM
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:16 pm to
Good non-violent drug offenders deserve to be pardoned
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

look for him to issue pardons in the TENS OF THOUSANDS to non-violent drug offenders during that time.


I hope he does.

It costs an average of $52/day to keep a person locked up.

Thats $1500/month, $30,000 a year.

Let's say he lets your number 10,000 out.

That's $3,000,000,000. And although a drop in the bucket monetarily, can you really put a price on the purchasing of freedom?

Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

How does his record on pardons compare to the last four presidents, at this stage in their terms?


would be interesting to see what the raw numbers are for each president.

i mean, if the previous high is 10 and obama does 11, then i know the right iwll pitch a fit but its nothingburger
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

In the next 2 years, Obama will be churning out pardons like there is no tomorrow.


Good deal. It's like we're doing a Mariel boatlift to ourselves. Barry's looking at the situation from Castro's eyes, i.e. You asked for it, you got it, Toyota!.
Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

How does his record on pardons compare to the last four presidents, at this stage in their terms?


LINK

Bush sr - 77
clinton - 459
bush jr - 200
obama - 61

Looks like presidential pardons are trending down. after WWII, there were a shite ton of them. Nixon pardoned almost a 1000.

so to the OP, I doubt obama gets over 100.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted by roguetiger15
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:29 pm to
I thought i read somewhere that his pardon numbers are much much lower than past presidents. now, he could be waiting till the very end to use this power, guess we'll wait and see.

edit: hawkeye
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:30 pm to
It shouldn't be based on numbers but on who is being pardoned and for what offense.

Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich, at Eric Holder's urging was one of the more egregious I can recall.

Pardons aren't always a bad idea. But sometimes they're just plain sickening.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:33 pm to
Obamas were the worst, though!
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:34 pm to
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so to the OP, I doubt obama gets over 100.


Slick Willy pardoned 140 on his last day. Obama's clock is still ticking.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

How does his record on pardons compare to the last four presidents, at this stage in their terms?


That's not the measure. The pardons come in the final year. Not the first 7.
Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Slick Willy pardoned 140 on his last day. Obama's clock is still ticking.


ok, so maybe he clips 100. But its not going to be a "record" unless he pardons all non violent drug offenders or goes absolutely bat shite crazy with the pardons.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:37 pm to
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Slick Willy pardoned 140 on his last day

And did it while he was disconnecting the kitchen sink from the white house.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich,


Well sometimes you need a boost for your presidential library, otherwise folks will just keep talking about cigars and ejaculate in the oval office.

quote:

Pardons aren't always a bad idea.


RWR, aka the greatest POTUS in my lifetime, pardoned Merle Haggard who has been a great force in the American way of life.
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:40 pm to
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And did it while he was disconnecting the kitchen sink from the white house.


And scanning all surfaces with a UV light.
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