Started By
Message

re: More White Privilege? ( personal story)

Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:31 am to
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

We all start at the same starting line.

This isn't true. My starting line was waaaay ahead of some poor kids (regardless of race) who grew up in the projects to a crackhead mom. I have no problem admitting that, as it doesn't diminish my accomplishments. But lets not parade some fairy tale that "everybody starts at the same place," which is hogwash.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Dude, her meaning was not plain.


All you are doing is pretending that your reality is correct. And it's not.


Yes, clearly you know what happened better than the guy that was there.


OP: Look either she meant "I guess they open up the counter for a white person" and if so, shame on her or she meant "now that we got up here they open a second counter" and you are interpreting it the first way; if so, shame on you.

A lot of people in this thread think it was probably second case. Why they think that, I don't know. I guess because the first case is unbelievable. Or maybe people posting on internet politics boards are argumentative dicks.

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Dude, her meaning was not plain. All you are doing is pretending that your reality is correct. And it's not.



So earlier you asked me if I were a mind reader because I gauged her intent by seeing her actions. But now you are reading her mind without even being there.
That's a good one!
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:43 am to
quote:

You are :blackobsessed:


No I'm not and you have nothing to back up this statement.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:44 am to
quote:

If you felt like it was directed towards you as you stated, then why not just tell her to "STFU" and then check out?


Wut?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29401 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:45 am to
quote:

A lot of people in this thread think it was probably second case. Why they think that, I don't know.
Because they refuse to believe that blacks can be racist or that many blacks view every slight in their life as racism.

To the OP, you should have just said to her, "white privilege baby", and gave her a wink.
Posted by djcaz33
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
616 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:45 am to
You need to watch Saturday Night Lives documentary "White Like Me". It'll shed some light on this situtation.

LINK
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:46 am to
I am just confrontational, it is what it is!
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Or maybe people posting on internet politics boards are argumentative dicks.

No, its because they are being consistent. Many black stories of racism are dissected on this board, looking for alternate explanations besides racism. Same should happen when a white person shares an example of what he interprets as racism. I mean, there is no objective evidence of racism in Rev's story. His only rebuttal is "well I was there and I know what she meant." We're just all supposed to accept that?

Ok my turn for a story. I was driving on the interstate and this white lady cut me off, and it was totally bc I was black. I was there, you guys weren't, so just trust me.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:48 am to
Obama has made relations worse

there is a big chip on black America right now

I am just going to try to be extra nice and move along

This is getting retarded

My sister n law had a black woman jump in front of her at line a few months ago, she said "No, I was here first"

And it was on, they practically had a fist fight in the parking lot.

My wife's family is feisty, they don't let anyone walk all over them.

This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 9:49 am
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

No I'm not and you have nothing to back up this statement.

This thread.

You tell the story focusing only on race, without even considering alternatives. When people respond with alternative explanations, your response is "I was there and I new her intent." I think thats the definition of :raceobsessed:
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 9:55 am
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7175 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:52 am to
Responding to no one in particular, my take is that most of us probably see the world through a racial prism to SOME degree, the question being "how much?" I don't know that there is anything inherently wrong with it because we all have and even need numerous paradigms to inform, order, and streamline our thinking. Teh question to me is one of degreee and the problem is that some folks go overboard in viewing the world through their preferred paradigns, often in a Manichaean way. The left's current preoccupation with "white privilege" is an example. I actually believe there is some degree of what could be described as "white privilege" but that it's just not that important or helpful to people of any race to dwell on.

But let's also be honest that there are plenty of whites who seem incapable of describing someone in nonracial terms. Although it's fading, I bet there are a number of you on this board who have heard the phrases "black-doctor" or "woman-lawyer" when the modifier is rrelevant to the conversation. I recall a situation a few years ago when I had a colleague ask me if I knew that someone we had worked with years before was black - the gentleman had a light complexion ("bright" was the term I remember being used when I was in school). I replied that I did know because I had read his bio indicating membership in the NAACP and so forth. My colleague actually became agitated and asked "why didn't you tell me?" I didn't have much of a response other than "I never thought about it," and when I giggled a bit at his consternation, it just bothered him more. Probably not a "CSB" but whatcha gonna do ...

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35349 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:52 am to
quote:

quote:

How do you know they were thinking it was because of race?
Skin Tone, body language, mannerisms, I was white, she was black, etc. it wasn't hard to assume what she was implying.
FIFY
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35349 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I was at the mall shopping yesterday with the grad daughter. I was standing in line waiting to check out behind one older black woman and 2 middle aged black women.
The older black woman at the register was going on and on about some supposed discount that she wanted and they felt she shouldn't deserve. This dragged out for about 10 minutes.
The 2 black ladies asked the cashier if they didn't have someone else to open up a second register? She said no, and they remarked something like," it's a week before Christmas, why don't you have help?"
Right after they finally made their way to the counter, a second girl opened up a register and said," next". Since I was next, I stepped up and walked to the checkout. One of the black ladies said," Um Huh, now they open another register" in a snide voice looking at me while she said it.
The implication was that they now opened a second register for a white person.
The truth is that I was waiting in the same line as her and just as long and I was simply the next customer up, but to her, it was somehow racially motivated.
Why do some people of color go through life seeing all incidental events as racially motivated?

Stolen from a friend on facebook:
quote:

Plenty of black folks are profiled wearing Brooks Brothers, Ralph Lauren and Prada. Quick story: I'm in Walmart and my credit card declines. I'm wondering wth is going on and so I go to the ATM and try to withdraw money. I rechecked a few times and realized that I might have be holding people up. I look back and see a white woman and I ask her if she was waiting in line. This is where it gets strange. She quickly says no and that she was waiting for her husband. I thought that was strange. It was a simple yes or no answer and she got really flustered and defensive. I said OK. She then asks if I'm alright. I thought that was a peculiar question and was a little confused. She then hit me with "I don't want any trouble" with a red face. All of this happened in a span of maybe 15 seconds. Temporarily dazed, It then hit me like a freight train. She was scared. Here I am, pink plaid Ralph Lauren shirt, gray slacks and brown loafers in a crowded Wal-Mart and this lady was scared of me.

Pot meet Kettle
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

No, its because they are being consistent. Many black stories of racism are dissected on this board, looking for alternate explanations besides racism. Same should happen when a white person shares an example of what he interprets as racism. I mean, there is no objective evidence of racism in Rev's story. His only rebuttal is "well I was there and I know what she meant." We're just all supposed to accept that? Ok my turn for a story. I was driving on the interstate and this white lady cut me off, and it was totally bc I was black. I was there, you guys weren't, so just trust me.



My story and your example are completely different. In my case, the comments were directed at me and it was plain. In your scenario, when someone is cut off, the driver who is in the other vehicle is not a factor.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

No, its because they are being consistent. Many black stories of racism are dissected on this board, looking for alternate explanations besides racism. Same should happen when a white person shares an example of what he interprets as racism. I mean, there is no objective evidence of racism in Rev's story. His only rebuttal is "well I was there and I know what she meant." We're just all supposed to accept that?


Well, that's a good thing, I guess. Though it doesn't contradict my point. It could just be that we are consistent argumentative dicks!


quote:

Ok my turn for a story. I was driving on the interstate and this white lady cut me off, and it was totally bc I was black. I was there, you guys weren't, so just trust me.


Yeah, I guess it does approach CSB-land.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7175 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:01 am to
"But lets not parade some fairy tale that "everybody starts at the same place," which is hogwash."

Amen to that. I prefer the much more useful approach of playing the hand that you're dealt to the best of your ability. People of all races and ethnicities who have done so are the ones who improve their lot in life and - this is sometimes overlooked - lay the groudwork for their offspring to be dealt a better hand.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29401 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:03 am to
quote:

She was scared. Here I am, pink plaid Ralph Lauren shirt, gray slacks and brown loafers in a crowded Wal-Mart and this lady was scared of me.


Who the frick is scared of a "thug" wearing a pink plaid shirt? Some people are retarded.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Pot meet Kettle

Nice. There is literally no difference between both stories. If I shared that second story on here as an example of "black prejudice" do you have any clue the downvotes and type of responses I would get? Rev has 4 upvotes 1 downvote. This board is crazy hypocritical sometimes.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:06 am to
quote:

the comments were directed at me

Oh yea the "F U, you pale skinned whitey!"

Or the comments that can be interpreted in more than one way?

quote:

and it was plain

I'm sure it was plain to you, as you are :raceobsessed:

You don't think it "plain" to many of those black people with similar stories of subtle racism? Do you take them at their word like you are expecting us to do as well?
first pageprev pagePage 4 of 7Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram