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9mm.....extra 100 fps....what does it do?

Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:12 pm
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:12 pm
This is ultimately a thread about SMGs, but can we ignore it for a moment?

BBTI


Take a 16" barrel vs a 4" barrel chambered in 9mm:

115 gr JHP+p 4"-------1316 fps
115 gr JHP+p 16"-------1525 fps so plus aprox 210 fps

125 gr JPH+p 4"-------1226 fps
125 gr JHP+p 16"-------1430 fps so plus approx 200


What can this actually do for you (practical/real world)?
-barrier penetration
-gel ballistics
-additional range effectiveness out to 100yds
-any other thoughts?****









****if you wouldn't mind just keeping this about 9mm and not about how you'd go with some other caliber like 5.7 or .45. Just wanting to know about what the additional fps can actually do for you and why a Subgun can help your projectile find its home faster and more effectively.













This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 9:17 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:14 pm to
1525-1316=209
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

1525-1316=209


damn, what the hell is wrong with me?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:25 pm to


I don't imagine it makes too much of a difference if the bullet isn't designed for it.
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:29 pm to
It goes a 100 feet per second faster
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

why a Subgun can help your projectile find its home faster and more effectively.



quote:

Take a 16" barrel vs a 4" barrel chambered in 9mm:




Posted by Gaston
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:38 pm to
My 357 sig has those numbers if you buy expensive rounds. It's 'flatter' is the answer. More accurate is the outcome, but claims of energy transfer and other shite are claimed as well.
Posted by Bagger Joe
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:34 pm to
In the example rounds you gave here (+P), the main reason for the additional speed is that in the 16" barrel, most, if not all, of the powder in the round has ignited in the barrel where in the 4" it has not. Complete powder burn is what most people who reload for
accuracy try to achieve. Powder burning outside the barrel after
the bullet is gone does no good. Although some like a big fireball
on the end of their gun. In a
combat or self defense situation, a
fireball may disorient or even
temporarily blind the shooter
making followup shoots difficult. In
my opinion, the most useless gun is a 2 1/2" 357 Magnum for this
very reason. I'm not sure about all
the effects of energy or "stopping
power" 200 fps will have. A lot of
it is bullet design. The more
contact with the barrel a bullet
has, the more accurate it should
be in theory but that also depends
on bullet weight and design. As a reloader I can say that faster is not always the most accurate. Bullet weight and powder charge have a lot to do with accuracy.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 9:09 am
Posted by tysonslefthook
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Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:01 am to
I would think it has something to do with the energy from the powder being behind the bullet longer. The energy can accelerate the bullet to a higher velocity if it is applied for a longer duration when exiting a longer barrel. Once the bullet and energy exit the barrel, the energy disapates and no longer is applied.

This is where your good old work formula comes in if you know a bit about physics.

Been a while since I've seen physics but I believe it was W=f*d

Gravity then requires the same amount of work to counter this and return the bullet to the ground. I know my knowledge isn't the best, but that's the general jist I believe.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:06 am to
Relatively nothing.
Posted by BoominHogtown
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:19 am to
Do you just write a poem?
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 8:20 am
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:45 am to
Wouldn't longer barrel help achieve better twist as well or would this have any effect? I was thinking it would.
Posted by Bagger Joe
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Do you just write a poem?


Ambien posing from my phone! Upon review, I actually didn't do too bad with it. Kinda stayed on point. I've had some 'WTF?' moments in the past.
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