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re: New Beretta Handgun

Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:58 pm to
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Meh

Agreed. 92's don't do anything for me.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:02 pm to
92 has that classic look that I dig, reminds me of an imaginary gun my dad may or may not have had
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:07 pm to
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Meh

It's still a Model 92, with a slide-mounted safety. It's still big and heavy.

The military carries these things as a "last resort" if all their M4's and SAWs run out of ammo - and no artillery or air support is available.

It's not well suited for CCW. It's certainly not "badass." It was a compromise gun when the Army adopted it the first time. Action is smooth. Safety lever is positioned poorly and is arse-backwards (rotate it "up" to deactivate the safety). The double-action half of the DA/SA trigger is smooth but long and very heavy (~ 10 lb.); the SA half is tolerable.

I have one of the original 92FS models. I haven't fired it in over 20 years, and certainly haven't carried it. It's quite reliable. But it's a relic that has few applications for civilians.

My advice is worth what you paid to read it ...... I'd estimate the value of my advice < $.02
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:17 pm to
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Agreed. 92's don't do anything for me.



Those inox tho

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:35 pm to
The Italian made inox
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:48 pm to
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The M9A3 introduces major improvements to the M9 that will increase the operational effectiveness and operational suitability of the weapon. The improvements include design and material enhancements resulting in increased modularity, reliability, durability, and ergonomics.

WOW!! Their explanation makes the "improvements" clear as mud...

Grip angle does look pretty steep....
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
1886 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:49 pm to
Estimated cost?
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:52 pm to
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WOW!! Their explanation makes the "improvements" clear as mud...


Exactly what I was thinking. What exactly is revolutionary about these improvements? They added a threaded barrel and painted it tan. Woopty do.

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Grip angle does look pretty steep....


I think the grip angle looks just like the angle on their original 92 and my personal 90-two. But there aren't any other significant improvements that I can see.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:03 pm to
Yea that's worthless.

My buddy has an M9 and I shoot the damn thing better than any other handgun. I hate it, but it shoots sooooooooo good. I might have to get one eventually just because we get along so well.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:03 pm to
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It's not well suited for CCW. It's certainly not "badass." It was a compromise gun when the Army adopted it the first time. Action is smooth. Safety lever is positioned poorly and is arse-backwards (rotate it "up" to deactivate the safety). The double-action half of the DA/SA trigger is smooth but long and very heavy (~ 10 lb.); the SA half is tolerable.


Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:18 pm to
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My buddy has an M9 and I shoot the damn thing better than any other handgun. I hate it, but it shoots sooooooooo good. I might have to get one eventually just because we get along so well.


They're very soft shooters and fun range toys for sure.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16536 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:21 am to
I didn't see the word "revolutionary" mentioned anywhere in the link.

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The M9A3 features a thin grip with a removable, modular wrap-around grip, MIL-STD-1913 accessory rail, removable front and rear tritium sights, extended and threaded barrel for suppressor use, 17-round sand resistant magazine, and numerous improved small components to increase durability and ergonomics, all in an earth tone finish.


Sounds like they are making the same type of product-improvement changes every single small arm the US military issues go through. I'm sure many of the changes are material in nature and actually do go a long way to practical improvement that you can't just see in a picture.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 6:36 am to
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Clames


I think I could state that ketchup is red and you would still find something to refute.

quote:

The M9A3 represents the next generation military handgun utilizing the best of the legacy M9 combined with proven COTS modifications that increase performance and durability” stated Gabriele de Plano, Vice President of Military Marketing and Sales for Beretta USA.


I don't see anything "next generation" about this gun. Maybe it'll end up proving me wrong and I'll feast on some crow. We'll see.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:00 am to
I've never understood the hate for 92s. People almost never say why they don't like them. They are nice and heavy. The look is bad arse, and they shoot so sweet.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:31 am to
Googled a pic, found this:



I like the grip angle.

ETA - she has wang between her tatas
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 7:32 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:34 am to
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It's not well suited for CCW.


We certainly don't want people to know a soldier has a gun...
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:50 am to
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Galactic Inquisitor



Your post is just filled with win. I don't know where to start...
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16536 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:03 am to


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I don't see anything "next generation" about this gun. Maybe it'll end up proving me wrong and I'll feast on some crow. We'll see.



Common when people don't do much research. What do think the difference between an M4 and a M4A1 are? Military considers them different generations yet the changes are nothing drastic. Thicker barrel, material changes, etc...all add up. M16, M16A1/2/3/4...not much changed from A2 to A4. Same with pretty much all military small arms systems and most legacy combat vehicles.


Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:11 am to
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she has wang between her tatas


What tatas?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:20 am to
We need more handgun discussion on here. Most of the threads are simply "what _____ should I buy" (I started one yesterday). I've enjoyed this thread, snark and all.
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