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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:09 pm to Baloo
OT- Baloo, you really need to do that end of the year MB vote on our favorite albums of the year like you did in 2012.... thanks buddy
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:12 pm to Rickety Cricket
quote:that's some bullshite. oh well, I guess it was too catchy and normal for Pitchfork to put it too high.
Future Islands at 22?
I don't even know what Grouper or FK Twiggy or whatever is.
As usual I only know about 1/3 of the top 20.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:13 pm to 318_Guy
I find that pitchforks list suspect.
yes, they nail some stuff but they overhype a bunch of stuff. Sometimes I listen to their best new music and go - WTF? then others are omitted like TVOTR
yes, they nail some stuff but they overhype a bunch of stuff. Sometimes I listen to their best new music and go - WTF? then others are omitted like TVOTR
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:14 pm to danman6336
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As usual I only know about 1/3 of the top 20.
Am I the only one that finds this odd? We all kind of agree on that on ALL these year end list.
Politics as Baloo pointed out?? what gives
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:14 pm to JohnZeroQ
No problem. I like stealing the AV Club method of balloting, but we'll get into that come January. I spent this year mining my back catalog more than listening to new music, so I'm a bit behind on this year's releases. I'll probably load up for Christmas.
To bring this back to Pitchfork, I think the music snob has lost the ability to call out pop music for being brainless, derivative shite. Bangs is long since dead and Christagau is a shell of his former self. I didn't always agree with those guys, but they had the ability to call out the mainstream with glorious venom. Now it's all "well, they are good at what they are trying to accomplish."
What a bunch of weak asses. Pop music has never been more boring, safe, and disposable. We need an angry voice on the periphery of the music press calling Taylor Swift and Beyonce out, instead of buying into their bullshite. It's expensive, well-produced drivel. But that still makes it drivel.
To bring this back to Pitchfork, I think the music snob has lost the ability to call out pop music for being brainless, derivative shite. Bangs is long since dead and Christagau is a shell of his former self. I didn't always agree with those guys, but they had the ability to call out the mainstream with glorious venom. Now it's all "well, they are good at what they are trying to accomplish."
What a bunch of weak asses. Pop music has never been more boring, safe, and disposable. We need an angry voice on the periphery of the music press calling Taylor Swift and Beyonce out, instead of buying into their bullshite. It's expensive, well-produced drivel. But that still makes it drivel.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:15 pm to JohnZeroQ
they pull some shite out of left field. there's some over indulgent bullshite fluff on this list.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:16 pm to monsterballads
I've also noticed Pitchfork is almost 100% guaranteed to put the best reviewed hip-hop or R&B album 1 or 2 lately
Every year since like 2011, really look at the lists
Every year since like 2011, really look at the lists
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:19 pm to danman6336
One more complaint:
That Sun Kil Moon album sucks. That's #7 and Future Islands can't make top 20? lol
That Sun Kil Moon album sucks. That's #7 and Future Islands can't make top 20? lol
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:22 pm to 318_Guy
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4. Aphex Twin - Syro
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:23 pm to danman6336
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quote: Future Islands at 22? that's some bull shite. oh well, I guess it was too catchy and normal for Pitchfork to put it too high. I don't even know what Grouper or FK Twiggy or whatever is. As usual I only know about 1/3 of the top 20.
That future islands album only has two good songs. The album's singles ranked high. The album isnt top 10 material ostensibly (pitchfork editors know their shite)
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:24 pm to danman6336
I like hip hop, but Pitchfork's continued praise of consensus choice hip hop albums reeks more of tokenism than any genuine criticism. They'd never sign off on the top consensus rock choices the way they do for hip hop. It's like they are afraid to call out Kanye for being a more interesting media figure than actual recording artist. In fact, I'd argue he does not have a single song as interesting as his "George Bush doesn't care about black people" moment. He's a performance artist, not a musician. His albums are actually kinda meh.
But you'd also never see The Source feel the need to cram on the Sturgill Simpson album in their top 50. Indie rock publications always seem ashamed of the genre they actually like and cover.
Though I have no problem with obscure choices on you Best Of list. In fact, I encourage it. It's better than a list of the same old, same old. And an ostensibly "indie" publication should probably champion the occasional artist who is actually, ya know, independent. I'm more likely to check out the albums I've never heard of rather than yet another Lykke Li album. Let's all pretend someone doing pop songs on Atlantic friggn' Records is some hidden gem.
But you'd also never see The Source feel the need to cram on the Sturgill Simpson album in their top 50. Indie rock publications always seem ashamed of the genre they actually like and cover.
Though I have no problem with obscure choices on you Best Of list. In fact, I encourage it. It's better than a list of the same old, same old. And an ostensibly "indie" publication should probably champion the occasional artist who is actually, ya know, independent. I'm more likely to check out the albums I've never heard of rather than yet another Lykke Li album. Let's all pretend someone doing pop songs on Atlantic friggn' Records is some hidden gem.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:26 pm to JohnZeroQ
Though after that rant, I should note that I think Run the Jewels is f'n awesome.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:28 pm to Baloo
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Posted by Baloo Though after that rant, I should not that I think Run the Jewels is f'n awesome.
So is there anything in the top 5 that isnt independent? Or is the list the right amount of indie? One hand its "too hipster" and the other "they arent independent enough"
Lol
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:29 pm to Baloo
quote:Before I read your post I read the little mini-reviews for the top 2 albums, both from black artists
I like hip hop, but Pitchfork's continued praise of consensus choice hip hop albums reeks more of tokenism than any genuine criticism.
Lots of quotes like "the themes of this myopically personal album echo social and cultural dramas that ran through the whole of 2014", "twigs is pleading the modern condition", "When institutions lacked authority and insurrection seemed permanently imminent, El-P and Killer Mike hurled 11 grenades, offering redemption through untrammeled rage"
That's just a small sample, that is like all they can say about RTJ
So basically the hardcore hipster, social justice warrior types that I assume fills Pitchfork's entire staff were just so mad about that Michael Brown that they put RTJ's number one, because Killer Mike is angry and black and Pitchfork is just so edgy and political
lol, what a joke
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:30 pm to Baloo
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Transgender Dysphoria Blues
Oh, you like shitty punk rock. It all makes sense now. Carry on
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:35 pm to Andre
lol
exactly what I was thinking
exactly what I was thinking
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