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Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:44 am to rossman
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Sucks for you...
Yes, I agree
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:45 am to cheeser
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cheeser
So you are of the opinion that all these players come in NFL ready and just hang out at LSU until they get drafted?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:46 am to cheeser
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I can also tell you I gave up my season tickets 6 years ago due to Good Ole Les.
Holy shite! You gave up on Les one year after winning the BCS title!
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:47 am to cheeser
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I suspect I have a pretty good idea
let us know then
I have a feeling it will be quite LOL worthy though
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:48 am to cheeser
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I can also tell you I gave up my season tickets 6 years ago due to Good Ole Les.
Thank you one less dipshit in the stands. Keep your old arse at home. True LSU fans will go to the games and get to see the players that Miles helped devlop into great players and great young men.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:51 am to jrodLSUke
Yes. I just assumed the stars would never be aligned again as they were then. Those 5 or 6 teams that had to lose to let us sneak in to the championship game may never all fall dead again on the same day . And you can take it from me, good ole les barely escaped the hangman that year.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:52 am to cheeser
can you answer the question to your own thread please?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:52 am to cheeser
Hard to say.
IMO Beckham, Landry, Hill, Patrick Peterson, Mingo, and Matthieu would all be in the NFL regardless of where they went to school. Inferior coaching at Tennessee Tech or some other random school wouldn't prevent players with that level of talent from reaching the NFL. LSU may have augmented draft position, but nothing short of injury, substance abuse or legal issues was going to keep a Beckham-level talent out of the NFL. Just my opinion.
IMO Beckham, Landry, Hill, Patrick Peterson, Mingo, and Matthieu would all be in the NFL regardless of where they went to school. Inferior coaching at Tennessee Tech or some other random school wouldn't prevent players with that level of talent from reaching the NFL. LSU may have augmented draft position, but nothing short of injury, substance abuse or legal issues was going to keep a Beckham-level talent out of the NFL. Just my opinion.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:55 am to cheeser
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I can also tell you I gave up my season tickets 6 years ago due to Good Ole Les.
I really admire the OP for his conviction. One year in a row of not winning the BCS title and OP is like, "Frick it, I'm out!".
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:56 am to cheeser
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...and thanks for all the fish.
...and thanks for all the fish.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:57 am to bherm1988
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Thank you one less dipshit in the stands. Keep your old arse at home. True LSU fans will go to the games and get to see the players that Miles helped devlop into great players and great young men.
Not to worry. My old arse will be not be in the stands with you and Good Ole Les. I am still busy trying to get copies of the miles-jj pictures. Miles may be a great developer of character, and a couple of his recent successes come to mind immediately. As far as my #, I'm sure there must be a 1 or 2 star player to make the nfl under miles, I just can't remember who it is fight now.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:59 am to cheeser
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How many players during the miles era do you feel were coached up enough to play in the NFL that would not have had the pure talent to play without his guidance ?
if they went to the NFL they were coached up.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:59 am to cheeser
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As far as my #, I'm sure there must be a 1 or 2 star player to make the nfl under miles, I just can't remember who it is fight now.
You are all over the place. Are you saying that if you are a 4 star player that made the NFL through LSU, they were destined there from the start?
If that's true then why do so many 4 star players at other schools not go to the NFL?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:00 am to cheeser
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Those 5 or 6 teams that had to lose to let us sneak in to the championship game may never all fall dead again on the same day
did you know that LSU needed about 8 teams to lose in the last 2 weeks in 2003 to get in the NC game?
probably not
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And you can take it from me, good ole les barely escaped the hangman that year.
so they were going to fire him right after winning his 2nd SEC West title and an SEC championship?
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:01 am to cheeser
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As far as my #, I'm sure there must be a 1 or 2 star player to make the nfl under miles, I just can't remember who it is fight now.
considering Miles doesn't really recruit that many 2* players...yeah, the number isn't going to be high
Morris Claiborne was probably the lowest ranked player out of HS (2* at one point) that I can remember that became a high draft pick under Miles
so are you criticizing Miles for only recruiting talented players?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:02 am to cheeser
Joe Barksdale is a shining example. Came in as a DL, was moved to OT and became a third rounder then a starter in the NFL.
Then you can start rattling off guys in the League who came up under Miles' regime.
Lamin Barrow
Odell Beckham, Jr.
Al Blue
Mike Brockers
Ron Brooks
Mo Claiborne
Lavar Edwards
Ego Ferguson
Jeremy Hill
Bennie Logan
Tyrann Mathieu
Danny McCray
Kiki Mingo
Kevin Minter
Pat Peterson
rueben Randle
Eric Reid
Stevan Ridley
Perry Riley
Russell Shepard
Tharold Simon
Trai Turner
Al Woods
James Wright
Craig Loston
So yeah, I'd say that a number of players have been "coached up" by the staff.
Then you can start rattling off guys in the League who came up under Miles' regime.
Lamin Barrow
Odell Beckham, Jr.
Al Blue
Mike Brockers
Ron Brooks
Mo Claiborne
Lavar Edwards
Ego Ferguson
Jeremy Hill
Bennie Logan
Tyrann Mathieu
Danny McCray
Kiki Mingo
Kevin Minter
Pat Peterson
rueben Randle
Eric Reid
Stevan Ridley
Perry Riley
Russell Shepard
Tharold Simon
Trai Turner
Al Woods
James Wright
Craig Loston
So yeah, I'd say that a number of players have been "coached up" by the staff.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:03 am to Choctaw
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if they went to the NFL they were coached up.
You miss the point . How many LSU players did not have had the talent to play in the NFL, but made it due to the coaching Miles' staff gave them ?
Kids that weren't 4 or 5 stars out of high school. Get it now ?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:05 am to cheeser
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How many LSU players did not have had the talent to play in the NFL, but made it due to the coaching Miles' staff gave them ?
Kids that weren't 4 or 5 stars out of high school. Get it now ?
this is absolutely impossible to know
do you not get that?
a 3* might have the talent of a 5* out of HS, just under evaluated or missed by recruiting sites
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:05 am to Salmon
Bennie Logan and Michael Brockers probably owe a good amount of their development to their choice to attend LSU. Other developmental "home runs" over the Miles tenure, just off the top of my head, include Mo Claiborne, Kelvin Sheppard, Perry Riley and James Wright
But I suppose Miles deserves no credit for any of those.
But I suppose Miles deserves no credit for any of those.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:07 am
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