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15,000 germans march in Dresden against Islamisation of their country
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:39 pm
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Its members have been dubbed the “pinstriped Nazis” and they refer to their demonstrations as “evening strolls” through German cities. But on Monday night, an estimated 15,000 people joined Pegida, or Patriotic Europeans Against Islamisation of the West, in a march through Dresden carrying banners bearing slogans such as “Zero tolerance towards criminal asylum seekers”, “Protect our homeland” and “Stop the Islamisation”.
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Germany over the last few decades has had big problem with mass turk immigration. Turks come and live off the generous state benefits, and they don't assimilate. There are precincts in Berlin that look nothing like Germany.
One of the reasons Angela Merkel has been so successful in elections there is because voters are attracted to the anti-multiculturalism message offered by the conservative CDU party.
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
That's what I'm talking about
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
And automatically they are called nazis. It is definitely a cultural invasion.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Europe is fricked if they don't get this problem under control. At the rate things are going, there will be more Muslims than non-Muslims in Europe by 2050.
They are going to eventually be forced to defend their respective homelands, and it may very well come to violence.
They are going to eventually be forced to defend their respective homelands, and it may very well come to violence.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
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They are going to eventually be forced to defend their respective homelands, and it may very well come to violence.
Translation: "will ineluctably come to violence."
Let's just be real
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:WATCH THIS VIDEO ABOUT MUSLIM EUROPE
Roger Klarvin
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is what happens when you let multiculturalism grow beyond your wildest imagination. I hate to break it to liberals but multiculturalism in reality is nothing like they see on Star Trek where everybody gets along whether it be alien, robot or human.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I really, really don't understand why so many of these Muslims come to Western countries when they have no intent to assimilate and resent everything the countries stand for.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:51 pm to Sentrius
Multiculturalism is fine, provided the cultures involved are interested in living in harmony.
Islam ain't bout dat lyfe, hence the problems.
Islam ain't bout dat lyfe, hence the problems.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:53 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Multiculturalism is fine, provided the cultures involved are interested in living in harmony.
Islam ain't bout dat lyfe, hence the problems.
As long as there are many shared values, it works. If not, then it's just an obstacle to overcome.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:54 pm to REG861
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I really, really don't understand why so many of these Muslims come to Western countries when they have no intent to assimilate and resent everything the countries stand for.
I think it has something to do with free stuff.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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As long as there are many shared values, it works.
Disagree.
You can value polar opposite things and still get along.
It's not the values themselves that are the problem, it's the willingness to not escalate such differences into physical discrimination or harm that makes multiculturalism go. And tbqh, most of the time, folks are more interested in living their lives unmolested as opposed to resorting to violence to impose their values on others.
Radical islam is definitely one of the exceptions.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:00 am to TbirdSpur2010
As long as there are many shared values, it works.
A nation generally has a business culture and a social culture. If a group doesn't share the values that make up the culture, they will be a drag on society and tensions will exist.
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Disagree.
You can value polar opposite things and still get along.
It's not the values themselves that are the problem, it's the willingness to not escalate such differences into physical discrimination or harm that makes multiculturalism go. And tbqh, most of the time, folks are more interested in living their lives unmolested as opposed to resorting to violence to impose their values on others.
A nation generally has a business culture and a social culture. If a group doesn't share the values that make up the culture, they will be a drag on society and tensions will exist.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:01 am to TbirdSpur2010
Muslims are to Germany what Cajuns are to Louisiana.
Merkel and the cdu are very much into multiculturalism. Heck, their entire political power essentially stems from them struggling with what it means to be a German when being a German means acknowledging its complicity in the death camps.
Read her speeches around the time of the World Cup when it was held in German. She's not opposed to multicultural perspectives. She's unsure what it means to operate in the world as a German when there isn't a central identity.
It's not that Turks aren't assimilating...it's that there is no unified stereotype of a German to find comfort in. (eg, Weimar Republic louse, bureaucrat, efficent German engineer)
Merkel and the cdu are very much into multiculturalism. Heck, their entire political power essentially stems from them struggling with what it means to be a German when being a German means acknowledging its complicity in the death camps.
Read her speeches around the time of the World Cup when it was held in German. She's not opposed to multicultural perspectives. She's unsure what it means to operate in the world as a German when there isn't a central identity.
It's not that Turks aren't assimilating...it's that there is no unified stereotype of a German to find comfort in. (eg, Weimar Republic louse, bureaucrat, efficent German engineer)
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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As long as there are many shared values, it works.
Many shared values helps, but it's not the only way that it can/does work.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
That video is both terrifying and sad.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Nice job with the music in that video. Ominous as frick
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:05 am to mahdragonz
Bloody ole Europe gonna bloody ole Europe. I was born in '70 and don't really remember living with a belligerant Europe. Peaceful and pacifist is not the historical norm.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:07 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Many shared values helps, but it's not the only way that it can/does work.
I think so. I've found a lot of cultures have little problem assimilating, mainly due to ethics and values. Others (like native American) struggle to assimilate because the things they value are so much different than what we value, and they struggle in the workplace.
Certain values are required in our business climate to be successful.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 12:08 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:09 am to mahdragonz
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It's not that Turks aren't assimilating...it's that there is no unified stereotype of a German to find comfort in.
It seems that there's a lot of, you know, Germans who disagree.
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