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Are there any diet books that dispel all the BS that people believe?

Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:20 pm
My mom has turned into one of these crazy people that believe everything she hears about dieting. Gluten is spanish for satan. Chickens have to be free range. Organic is heaven. Whole foods can fix any problem you have. I'd love to buy her a book that says something to the effect of there are plenty of nonagenarians that drink and smoke and eat the local hamburger meat next to the river that goes by the power plant.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:21 pm to
NO GMOssssssss
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:22 pm to
By the time I've read all those books, I've discovered their secret---do not eat anything, ever.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:22 pm to
Monsanto
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8958 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:22 pm to
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NO GMOssssssss



shite, I forgot about that one. It's her latest kick.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36398 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:22 pm to
haha you're fat
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89831 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:26 pm to
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Gluten is spanish for satan





So true...
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6752 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:08 pm to
My Aunt mentioned The Big Fat Surprise as being pro meat, butter ,and cheese. I was doing well with my wife insisting that she show me peer reviewed journal articles about all her assertions regarding diet. She has been killing me lately with journal articles against wheat and dairy. I just don't have the interest to look up stuff that might refute.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:16 pm to
Start by having her read this NY Time article from 2002: LINK and remind her that some of the best and sane advice one can live by is "everything in moderation."
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124216 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:26 pm to
My biggest problem is soft drinks

I drink a 6 pack a day. I use to be able drink that many when I was a younger but the older I'm noticing just how bad these are for my waist line
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47354 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:37 pm to
When I cut out my one regular coke a day, I immediately lost 12 pounds. With your 6 a day, you'd probably waste away!
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:22 am to
She is probably too far gone in her ignorant beliefs but...
-Eat the Yolks
-Eat Meat and Stop Jogging
-Good Calories, Bad Calories
...as far as reading material and "Fathead" is an enlightening documentary. Unfortunately most (all?) people have been raised in this country with one way of thinking and most believe that "cheerios can lower cholesterol" because a commercial saying 4/5 doctors recommend this tells them they can. Very few people actually question things, anything in general, anymore because its convenient to go with the flow and requires effort to get past bullshite. Tell her to quit eating crappy wheat products, to start frying whole eggs in butter for bkfst, and to eat alot more fatty red meat. That in conjuction with a WEIGHTLIFTING routine (not cardio) will make her feel alot better and add muscle. She will look and feel the way she wants if she manages her calorie intake across the correct macros.

Also, tell her to go on youtube and look up the "free range" chicken portion on the documentary "Food, Inc". Free Range means not kept in a cage. They dont tell you that they are in gigantic acre long coop along with 100's of thousands of other "free range" chickens that are so mutated by hormones they can only walk a few feet without getting winded and resting. They must do this because they are so heavy now with all the meat they are carrying that is disproportionate to the size of internal organs such as the heart that they cant support their own body weight. Many of these free range chickens die due to heart failure and lay in their own feces for days before a group of mexicans go in at night and throw them in the bucket of a backhoe and they are then processed by Tyson.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 7:57 am
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:35 am to
youre reading the wrong books.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 5:37 am to
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there are plenty of nonagenarians that drink and smoke and eat the local hamburger meat next to the river that goes by the power plant.


Surely there's a happy middle ground between "militant organic" and "frick you science."
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 6:23 am to
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Surely there's a happy middle ground between "militant organic" and "frick you science."


Depends on the person.

Pistol Pete was an elite athlete who was a militant health nut and died at 44. Lots like him.

I have a friend whose dad died at 102. When he was 100 his idiot doctor tried to get him to quit smoking. At least half a pack a day for 85 years.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27060 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:10 am to
Except PMac died from a heart defect Source.

And I hear stories of people smoking a pack a day and having bacon milkshakes 3 times a day until they're 110. I don't doubt that some people beat the odds, but the fact that smoking kills about 1 out of 5 people doesn't bode well for those that smoke. Source

I'm just saying there is a happy middle ground. Why does OP want his Mom to start drinking untreated agriculture runoff water because she is a staunch organic foodie person (for lack of a better term)? You don't fight fire with fire. Can't he just encourage her to tone down her rhetoric some and understand that there are marketing factors at play in the lifestyle she has chosen to buy in to?

If I were OP I would buy my mom some books and supplies on gardening and chickens and let her make her own food. Seems more productive than trying to turn her to the other side.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:20 am to
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If I were OP I would buy my mom some books and supplies on gardening and chickens and let her make her own food. Seems more productive than trying to turn her to the other side.


right?

and as long as she isn't trying to push her new diets on everyone, who cares? if she is eating healthier and feeling better, is that a bad thing?
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 7:20 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81182 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:32 am to
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so mutated by hormones they can only walk a few feet


Jones will be so proud to see me repeat what he taught me.

No chicken you're buying in a grocery store in the US has been injected with hormones. Antibiotics, sure. But hormones are illegal, and the inspection for these places is extremely strict.

Otherwise, you're right. Free range is silly. Put 300 chickens free in a football stadium, and you'll find all 300 huddled in a corner together when you come back an hour later. This la la land idea of chickies skipping free through the valley is wrong Not only is it not the case, but it isn't even the preference of the actual chickens.

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WEIGHTLIFTING routine (not cardio) will make her feel alot better and add muscle. She will look and feel the way she wants if she manages her calorie intake across the correct macros


I generally run far away from workout people conversation because it is very cult-esq on the internet, but from what I've managed to catch, weightlifting is much better than cardio.

I think it is funny that some women think weight lifting will make them some muscle man. Lady, if it was that easy to bulk up by tossing around some weights, every man would look like The Hulk.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81182 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:33 am to
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If I were OP I would buy my mom some books and supplies on gardening and chickens and let her make her own food. Seems more productive than trying to turn her to the other side.



Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:48 am to
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No chicken you're buying in a grocery store in the US has been injected with hormones. Antibiotics, sure. But hormones are illegal, and the inspection for these places is extremely strict.


Ok. Well explain how chickens are now raised to over 5 lbs in less than 6 wks. 80 years ago, it took a chicken 16 wks to reach 2.5 lbs. Modern chickens do not have the cardiovascular system or the skeletal system to support the weight of their own bodies because the grow so big so fast. They cant walk. They just exist. What's changed between the 1930's and today?
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