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Need an explanation on homosexuality

Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:23 am
Posted by AUsome Possum
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:23 am
I live in Alabama and my core principles are that homosexuality is wrong. I do not hate anyone, however I do not agree with the way of life.

It also isnt my business with any particular person specifically. I think everyone should be able to do what they want. I personally, just do not think it is right and unnatural.

Where I have a question is that I don't understand why calling someone who doesnt believe in homosexuality or is a homophobic, ignorant.

Please explain to me how that is ignorance. It is a perfectly acceptable personal preference on life that is justified by plenty of reasons given.

After all, everything pertaining to this line of politics is simply an opinion. Not a fact.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 3:06 am
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:46 am to
How is it "unnatural"? Does it not occur in nature?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:00 am to
Because they preach tolerance unless it goes against their point of view.

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Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:26 am to
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After all, everything pertaining to this line of politics is simply an opinion. Not a fact.
Nothing in your post has anything to do with politics.
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I do not agree with the way of life.
Homosexuality isn't an opinion. There is nothing with which to agree or disagree.
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I personally, just do not think it is right
Sexuality is not a moral value. It is neither right nor wrong. Any moral value placed on sexuality is inferred by you and you only.
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homophobic
This word appears in every English dictionary. Look it up. It applies to you (first sentence of your OP).
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ignorant
This word also implies to you, or else you wouldn't have any questions. You are ignorant of something and wish not to be ignorant of it. That is good.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16533 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:30 am to
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It also isnt my business with any particular person specifically. I think everyone should be able to do what they want. I personally, just do not think it is right and unnatural.


I'm sensing some contradiction inside of you.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69213 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:43 am to
Marriage is a social construction so it is perfectly reasonable to have society vote on how they want to define it.

The connection of marriage with individual rights is absolutely atrocious. Marriage is a unit created by society in order to bring about stability, the raising of children, and the passing on of values all encompassed by love that extends from husband to wife to daughter to son to dog to cat.

I don't think the federal government should take a stand on the issue, but you better damn well believe I am voting against it if it is on the ballot in my state.

I am sick and tired of marriage being connected to individual rights and passionate expressions of love felt by any two individuals. It is so much more than that. It is the most important social structure every designed by society. Where there are families, there is strength, loyalty, and a healthy teaching of morality passed onto children by parents.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:52 am to
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I am sick and tired of marriage being connected to individual rights and passionate expressions of love felt by any two individuals. It is so much more than that. It is the most important social structure every designed by society. Where there are families, there is strength, loyalty, and a healthy teaching of morality passed onto children by parents.



Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:56 am to
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Marriage is a social construction so it is perfectly reasonable to have society vote on how they want to define it.
No doubt.
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Marriage is a unit created by society in order to bring about stability
Absolutely.
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am sick and tired of marriage being connected to individual rights and passionate expressions of love felt by any two individuals. It is so much more than that. It is the most important social structure every designed by society. Where there are families, there is strength, loyalty, and a healthy teaching of morality
Exactly why you'd be a fool to vote to allow your government to abridge marriage rights based on the sexes of the engaged. Like you said, it's so much more than that.
Posted by AUsome Possum
Member since Dec 2014
85 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:54 am to
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Nothing in your post has anything to do with politics.



Society opinion is the definition of politics

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Homosexuality isn't an opinion. There is nothing with which to agree or disagree


Political society disagrees. Otherwise there would be no law against gay marriage. That is, of it being right or wrong. And yes it is right or wrong.

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Sexuality is not a moral value. It is neither right nor wrong. Any moral value placed on sexuality is inferred by you and you only.


That is highly debatable

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homophobic
This word appears in every English dictionary. Look it up. It applies to you (first sentence of your OP).


You're right. I'm ignorant on where the proper logic comes from, from people who use the term ignorant improperly. Only to use it to their advantage when it works for them and against others when it isn't. Always attempting to make it fit their novel perfectly. There is a word for that. Hypocritical.

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quote: ignorant This word also implies to you, or else you wouldn't have any questions. You are ignorant of something and wish not to be ignorant of it. That is good.


I've already accepted I am ignorant to the issue at hand which is why homosexual supporters tend to use the term ignorant incorrectly. I'm simply attempting to gain some insight on why most think this is the proper term to use and for what reasons. Where does the root of lack of knowledge descend from when discussing one who is heterosexual's preference on life?







Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16533 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:01 am to
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I am sick and tired of marriage being connected to individual rights and passionate expressions of love felt by any two individuals. It is so much more than that. It is the most important social structure every designed by society. Where there are families, there is strength, loyalty, and a healthy teaching of morality passed onto children by parents.


And how exactly does gay marriage contradict that? Unless you are saying "gay families" are incapable of providing strength, loyalty, and morality. Which would be absurd.

2 loving gay parents is better for a child then 2 aloof or messed up straight parents.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16533 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:05 am to
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Where does the root of lack of knowledge descend from when discussing one who is heterosexual's preference on life?


I think people believe this because a lot of people against gay marriage are filled with misconceptions about gay people. The vast majority of gay people are not like the ones depicted in the media at all. Most are pretty much exactly the same as their straight counterparts, until obviously it comes to the bedroom.

For a lot of people having a good friend or family member come out really changes their perspective on things.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:26 am to


Because you can't have babies with 2 penises you idiot.

I heard back in 3577 B.C. two lewd perverts invented a game called pin the tail on the donkey, they got drunk and woke up with sore bums, and the perversion was discovered.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29353 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:38 am to
First off, do you personally know any homosexuals? If not, maybe you should. They're not some sick, perverted immoral freaks like some religious people believe. They're no different from most people (except the really flamboyant ones).

It's not a "choice" as most religious people think. Every single gay person I know said they knew very young that they were gay. They don't just wake up one day and say, "Hey, I think I like dick instead of poon." No amount of praying or therapy will make them "not gay". If you really want to be a good Christian, just accept these facts and quit condemning their lifestyle and "love thy neighbor". (But not in the literal sense, cause that would be gay.)

I asked a gay friend of a friend once while we were at a club if he'd ever had sex with a woman. He said no and I said, "You should try it once, you might really like it." He says, "Have you ever had sex with a man?" I said, "Hell no." He says, "You should try it once, you might really like it." Me, "Touche'!"
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:44 am to
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someone who doesnt believe in homosexuality



Living your life based on a book written 3,000 years ago is more preposterous than "believing" in homosexuality.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 5:49 am
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:46 am to
How sad is it that people on this board will decry changing the definition of marriage without knowing the definition of things like "natural"?

This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 5:47 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80057 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:31 am to
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Where I have a question is that I don't understand why calling someone who doesnt believe in homosexuality or is a homophobic, ignorant.


I think you are all over the place with your OP... I don't think anyone on here, and I could be wrong, has said that you have to accept homosexuality, embrace it, etc... You can disagree with whatever you would like.

The issue that the pro-gay marriage crowd on here has is that people will go out of their way to deny others basic rights that they, themselves have, because of their sexuality. They think that gays being married somehow negatively affects their own marriage.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64309 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:35 am to
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Homosexuality isn't an opinion. There is nothing with which to agree or disagree.
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I'm pretty sure pedophiles don't choose to be sexually attracted to kids. Should thd same argument apply to them?

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Sexuality is not a moral value. It is neither right nor wrong. Any moral value placed on sexuality is inferred by you and you only.

Once again, the same argument is made by some about pedophiles.
If you're stagement is true about homosexuality, why is their point about pedophiles not true?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67476 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:42 am to
It's a natural anomaly.

Like dwarfism, albinism, and other useless traits.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:47 am to
OP is all over the place and I really don't know where to start so I'll leave you with my clear definition of bigot.

You just become a bigot against homosexuals when you want to base public policy on your religious and/or socially conservative beliefs and/or homophobia, you become a bigot when you slander, defame and attempt to shame people as being gay and harass openly gay people.

If you aren't doing anything of the above, nobody really gives a shite about your opinion of gay people.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64309 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:53 am to
So if a heterosexual doesn't fully support the gay agenda you think they're a bigot.

Does that not also mean that a homosexual who does not support what can be described as the heterosexual agenda as a bigot as well?
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 7:20 am
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