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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:38 pm
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Somehow my daughter's horse riding lessons have led to me owning a full bred registered quarter horse colt. He is about 9 months old. Just out of curiosity (this will not happen), when would you send a horse like this off to a trainer to get ready to race at Delta Downs, and how much of an investment would it take to get this horse ready for its first race?
Posted by cattus
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:39 pm to
sir, you have come to the right place
Posted by Sampson
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:43 pm to
How old is your daughter?
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:44 pm to
sell it to a stupid girl that shows horses (english rider will be most profitable).

sell the girl first, daddy will buy it for a good price. how many hands is the horse now? I might buy it now
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:46 pm to
I have no idea about cost but what makes you think he will be a good race horse? Were the parents race horses? Seems like the ceiling would be low for a QH on a track race. Aren't most race horses thoroughbreds?
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:46 pm to
Figure a training "day rate" of about $60 to $75 per day.

This doesn't include travel and moving expenses, assistant trainer's salary, liability insurance, farrier, shipping, veterinary care, medications, vaccinations, and worming.

For thoroughbreds, you have these odds:

run in a race: 69%
win a race: 45%
win more than once: 34%
win a stakes race: 3%
win a graded stakes: less than 1%
race at age 2: 34%
win at 2: 11%
win a stakes at 2: less than 1%
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

sell it to a stupid girl that shows horses (english rider will be most profitable).


She'd have to be really stupid to buy a purebred QH for showing in English (and yes, I realize that QH shows have English riding classes).

Sell the horse to a barrel racer.

Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:50 pm to
Exactly three words:

Sell
Sell
Sell

You're welcomed in advance
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:51 pm to
Out of curiosity, why did you buy a 9 month old colt?
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:52 pm to
you never said purebred. and answer the question about race horse ancestry.

without a history you aint got shite
Posted by Double Oh
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

Somehow my daughter's horse riding lessons have led to me owning a full bred registered quarter horse colt. He is about 9 months old. Just out of curiosity (this will not happen), when would you send a horse like this off to a trainer to get ready to race at Delta Downs, and how much of an investment would it take to get this horse ready for its first race?





Hes fixing to turn one yr old Jan 1st which is the birthday for all horses. You have to break your horse which means he has to learn how to have a rider on him, get used to having a saddle on him, get use to galloping on the track, get use to walking on the walking wheel. This takes about 60 days and you can do it for about $30 a day. Cost is $1800 and this is only for the breaking of the horse. After you bream the horse i like to turn mine out for about 90 days. So now you have to find a place where they can take ur horse, turn it out in a paddock during the day and possibly stall it up at night and he gets 2-3 meals a day. Probably find someone that can do it for $20 a day. Cost is $1800 so now you got $3600 total in the horse. Then he starts serious training. 4-6 months of training is what it takes to get the horse to the races so at $30 a day and lets use 5 months thats another $4500. So now you have about $8100 in the horse. This does not include vet bills which i think should average about $100 a month should he have no serious problems. So now you got $8600 in him.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:55 pm to
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you never said purebred
The original poster did say it was a purebred.

quote:

led to me owning a full bred registered quarter horse colt


Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:57 pm to
I've been around horses all my life, but I would not get involved with a race horse. It is definitely an activity for the experienced in that specific endeavor.
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

sir, you have come to the right place



I assumed this.
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

How old is your daughter?



9
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

've been around horses all my life, but I would not get involved with a race horse. It is definitely an activity for the experienced in that specific endeavor.









same here but i love owning horses. I would recommend it if you have the time and money to do it.
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

sell it to a stupid girl that shows horses (english rider will be most profitable).

sell the girl first, daddy will buy it for a good price. how many hands is the horse now? I might buy it now


I'm pretty sure I'm already the stupid dad of the stupid girl that takes english riding lessons.

Hmmm, I'll figure it out tomorrow. Maybe 60" now. Great looking horse. Has a really cool "Coon Tail". Three white stripes at tail head.
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

I have no idea about cost but what makes you think he will be a good race horse? Were the parents race horses? Seems like the ceiling would be low for a QH on a track race. Aren't most race horses thoroughbreds?



He is full bred quarter horse, but from what I understand, the parents were big time "cutting" horses.

Thoroughbreds run the long races. Quarter horses are the drag racers of horses. Straight line 1/4 mile racing.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

run in a race: 69%
win a race: 45%
win more than once: 34%
win a stakes race: 3%
win a graded stakes: less than 1%
race at age 2: 34%
win at 2: 11%
win a stakes at 2: less than 1%


Cool, great info. At what age do they start training/racing?

Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23314 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:04 pm to
We brought a TB mare back from Hawaii with us when I was a kid. She was a running machine. I wish we had sent her to a track. She did win a number of steeplechase events. She was the best horse I've ever ridden - stamina and speed. My dad and I both foxhunted her.

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