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re: Lots of Anthony Hickey highlights on ESPNPosted by Slasen on 12/16/14 at 8:06 am to TigerBait1127
Hickey is doing great for us. LINK just earned Big 12 newcomer of the week.
re: Lots of Anthony Hickey highlights on ESPNPosted by Tiger in NY on 12/16/14 at 8:12 am to ellessuuuu
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Yes, this team misses his ability to run the offense without turning it over.
He was a poor shooter and distributer. We need a point that can get into the lane to get the D to collapse and then dish. Hickey was too short and was a poor driver.
I am glad we are able to give Gray and Quarterman a lot of time. If Hickey would have gladly accepted a backup role and had a great attitude, he'd be an asset. Not sure if that was going to happen at LSU or not though. Hard to take that demotion. Being a role player elsewhere is often easier.
This post was edited on 12/16 at 11:20 am
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LSUButt
Really not sure why you hate the guy so much. You should change your name to LSUButtHURT. And yeah your stats are right, so he was not an elite player, OK. But that doesn't make him a bad player. If you think that as a senior, he wouldn't be tearing it up right now, GTFO. Stats can be extremely misleading. They don't account for hustle plays, pass breakups that go to other players' steal stats, ball saves from out of bounds, etc.
Since you're the stat guru, go try and find out how many points LSU scored with him on the court vs. off of it. Also, how many of your precious opponent guard points were straight up against Hickey? Let's see those stats.
I watched plenty of LSU basketball over the years and it seemed like when Hickey wasn't in the game we could never generate any offense. He was the only true ball handler we had for like 3 years because Bass' spastic handling sure wasn't the answer when he was here. Carmouche was the only guard we found in Hickey's time here to actually provide some high quality minutes when he sat. While Stringer was a solid player, he didn't assume Hickey's role. Speaking of Stringer, maybe his 5'9" frame had something to do with opponent guard play as well. Our size really put us at a disadvantage in a lot of situations.
TL;DR- Anyone who actually watched Hickey play the majority of his career knew he was a total badass. Stats can be misleading and don't tell the whole story. I'd love to have him on this year's team with all of his experience, and as a former tiger, I'll continue to support him.
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Anyone who actually watched Hickey play the majority of his career knew he was a total badass.
He showed up in big games, but then faded against crappy opponents a bunch. He was a decent player who go exploited a bunch along with Stringer just due to their lack in size. He by no means is a player that I look at and think losing him hurts our season.
re: Lots of Anthony Hickey highlights on ESPNPosted by SouthOfSouth on 12/16/14 at 11:18 am to Scrowe
I think alot of people are hiding behind the stats and not looking at the big picture on Hickey.
First and foremost, I liked Anthony Hickey. He was a good person and I wish him nothing but the absolute best. There is no denying that Anthony Hickey struggled to guard some larger players. I wouldn't consider him a great defender. Just like Mickey isn't a very good on ball defender but he can block some shots when guys come around him, Hickey could get in passing lanes and steal the ball very well, but he was a one trick pony.
Offensively, I love a PG that doesn't turn the ball over, but he also didn't make very much happen. He had 0 ability to get into the lane so he was never able to get a defense out of position and force rotation. That is a key to Jones offensive style.
He has never been a good shooter from 2, 3 or FT line. That is just the facts. Sure his So year he made some big shots at the buzzer, but he missed those same shots last year. That is the difference between us being a tournament team last year and an NIT team. I don't blame him, but I think his "clutchness" is over emphasized.
At the end of the day, Hickey was a great Tiger and I hope he becomes a great Okie Lite player.
First and foremost, I liked Anthony Hickey. He was a good person and I wish him nothing but the absolute best. There is no denying that Anthony Hickey struggled to guard some larger players. I wouldn't consider him a great defender. Just like Mickey isn't a very good on ball defender but he can block some shots when guys come around him, Hickey could get in passing lanes and steal the ball very well, but he was a one trick pony.
Offensively, I love a PG that doesn't turn the ball over, but he also didn't make very much happen. He had 0 ability to get into the lane so he was never able to get a defense out of position and force rotation. That is a key to Jones offensive style.
He has never been a good shooter from 2, 3 or FT line. That is just the facts. Sure his So year he made some big shots at the buzzer, but he missed those same shots last year. That is the difference between us being a tournament team last year and an NIT team. I don't blame him, but I think his "clutchness" is over emphasized.
At the end of the day, Hickey was a great Tiger and I hope he becomes a great Okie Lite player.
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re: Lots of Anthony Hickey highlights on ESPNPosted by LMfan on 12/16/14 at 11:31 am to SouthOfSouth
Happy for him, always liked him as a player and a kid, but he would drive me up the wall sometimes with his late game decision making + shot making (or lack there of).
For whatever reason, it was clear he didn't mesh well with Johnny. I feel like our offense needed a new cast of characters and a new identity, and for the most part I like the way things have worked out for us. And he's not exactly lighting the world on fire in Stillwater, we're talking about 9 PPG, 3.7 APG and awful free throw shooting from a smallish point guard here.
Anyway, it would be nice if Okie St can make the tourney so he can get a taste of the dance before his career is out. They're 8-1 with a win over Memphis but a bad 75-49 loss to South Carolina on their ledger.
For whatever reason, it was clear he didn't mesh well with Johnny. I feel like our offense needed a new cast of characters and a new identity, and for the most part I like the way things have worked out for us. And he's not exactly lighting the world on fire in Stillwater, we're talking about 9 PPG, 3.7 APG and awful free throw shooting from a smallish point guard here.
Anyway, it would be nice if Okie St can make the tourney so he can get a taste of the dance before his career is out. They're 8-1 with a win over Memphis but a bad 75-49 loss to South Carolina on their ledger.
quote:I think the lack of size was an excuse last year as we have shown the same vulnerabilities this year.
He showed up in big games, but then faded against crappy opponents a bunch. He was a decent player who go exploited a bunch along with Stringer just due to their lack in size. He by no means is a player that I look at and think losing him hurts our season.
He would have been a plus to our team this year.
It looks like he got himself into a great spot at Okie State so obviously that is a better place for him this season.
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