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Another cop beat down of a citizen for "not complying"

Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:43 pm
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:43 pm
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And it seems the media instantly are made aware of the victims past. Luckily, the victim didn't have a preexisting medical condition so he lived.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 10:44 pm
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:48 pm to
If the citizen had not approached the cop and told him to move his vehicle, none of this would have happened.

In fact, if the citizen had realized that he was about to challenge the authority of a police officer and just killed himself instead, we wouldn't have to witness this unpleasant spectacle on our TVs.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

And it seems the media instantly are made aware of the victims past. Luckily, the victim didn't have a preexisting medical condition so he lived.



At first glance and review, it appears the officer didn't like being asked to move his car (not sure of the full story on that)...and he made the man pay for having the audacity to up his tone "You need to move".

Some cops are hot heads and govern by intimidation.

but at the same time, who has the balls to talk to an officer like that? Usually, there is a valid reason a cop does what he does (referencing parking)...but then again...

video looks bad for sure.

This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

And it seems the media instantly are made aware of the victims past. Luckily, the victim didn't have a preexisting medical condition so he lived.
You have to love it when someone is cited for resisting arrest but there is no charge for anything that should lead to an arrest.

The officer should be fired. He stomped on the guy's head and then kept a decent amount of weight there. For asking him to move his car.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

baybeefeetz
Are you here to deny that the cop's actions have anything to do with the gash on his head?
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:53 pm to
Someone should stomp that pig's head into the street and see how he enjoys it.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

The officer should be fired.


Fired? How bout lock his arse up with the other lawless thugs that menace the streets of Sacramento? A job should be the least of his concerns.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:09 am to
When George Will comes across as a bit of a revolutionary with regards to police force, has the revolution already started?

LINK
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:10 am to
quote:

Fired? How bout lock his arse up with the other lawless thugs that menace the streets of Sacramento? A job should be the least of his concerns.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:18 am to
I don't understand how you can be arrested for resisting arrest and nothing else.

How are you resisting arrest when you're not being arrested for something?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:48 am to
quote:

I don't understand how you can be arrested for resisting arrest and nothing else.

How are you resisting arrest when you're not being arrested for something?

It does appear to be a conundrum.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:55 am to
quote:

I don't understand how you can be arrested for resisting arrest and nothing else. How are you resisting arrest when you're not being arrested for something?

The same way you can be subject to civil forfeiture without ever being charged. The game is rigged. We're just waking up.

Eta: there are plenty of bullshite charges they can shoehorn into any situation when needed.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 12:58 am
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:31 am to
I agreed with that entire Will piece, expect for this part.

quote:

This will be true even if they did not experience the often deranging use of prolonged solitary confinement, which violates the Eighth Amendment’s ban on “cruel and unusual punishments” and is, to put things plainly, torture.


Come on. I understand solitary is no picnic, but from my understanding of how it's utilized, it's not like jaywalkers and marijuana dealers are being tossed in there without cause.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:42 am to
You should do a little more reading on solitary...maybe watch the Frintline piece on it. Saying its "no picnic" is a massive understatement.
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:47 am to
The guy that filmed the incident better get out of town soon. You know that the cops will be looking for any reason to get a hold of him as well.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:59 am to
If he has any type of criminal record we'll hear about it soon.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:48 am to
Do not approve of what I saw. At all. But I am curious as to what I did not see. The person arrested openly admits he cursed at the officer and told him to move his patrol vehicle. Not sure where it went from there.

There are some gaps in this story.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Do not approve of what I saw. At all. But I am curious as to what I did not see. The person arrested openly admits he cursed at the officer and told him to move his patrol vehicle. Not sure where it went from there.

There are some gaps in this story.


The article said he was arrested for resisting arrest. The article failed to mention what cops attempted to arrest him for. Resisting arrest means you did something that was legally a crime and you were resisting cops efforts to take you into custody. Cursing at somebody, even a cop isn't a crime btw.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:10 am to
quote:

The article said he was arrested for resisting arrest. The article failed to mention what cops attempted to arrest him for. Resisting arrest means you did something that was legally a crime and you were resisting cops efforts to take you into custody. Cursing at somebody, even a cop isn't a crime btw.
I am quite familiar with the statute in question. It still does not answer my question. Why was the officer blocking traffic with his vehicle? Why did the individual arrested confront him? Did he interfere with an officer in the performance of his duties? Not sure. All we see is the end of the confrontation where the officer was clearly using excessive force on an individual who was already subdued. For that alone he should be terminated. If the force was unwarranted he should face criminal charges of his own.

I stand by my original assessment. Need more facts/context.
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