This board has become bipolar in it's world views

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We hate the police...unless they kill a "thug".

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Nothing bi-polar about that. We can hate police practices that are becoming common without suddenly thinking that there are zero circumstances where a cop might end up shooting someone.

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We hate our police state...unless they torture a "terrorist".

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Yep. That one is kinda bi-polar

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We love our freedoms...unless our gov't abuses freedoms of others.

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Hmm. Is this a redundancy of your second point?

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It really bothers me that such self-perceived thinkers can hold such opposing views at the same time

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It's called critical thinking and when applied to different situations might result in conclusions that seem contradictory.

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I guess it's just a symptom of the times, but, as far as general consensus goes:

We hate the police...unless they kill a "thug".

We hate our police state...unless they torture a "terrorist".

We love our freedoms...unless our gov't abuses freedoms of others.

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You left out two key words, CherryGarciaMan.
One is "fact", and the other is "truth".

Want to address specific facts or truths, or their perceived antitheses?
Lay them out.

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We hate our police state...unless they torture a "terrorist".

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The torturing of terrorists has nothing to do with our police state.

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We love our freedoms...unless our gov't abuses freedoms of others.

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This might be a bit hypocritical, but it is not contradictory. All people value their own rights above the rights of others to a certain extent.

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Redundancy or not, it's a pretty solid point. People wonder why the world takes a slanted view of us, but they don't realize it's their own hypocrisy.

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While true to a point, the world hates us because we have more stuff than they do & we don't need "papers" to travel around

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While true to a point, the world hates us because we have more stuff than they do & we don't need "papers" to travel around

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Apparently you've never been through an inspection checkpoint.

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the world hates us because we have more stuff than they do

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:lol: :lol:

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The military who polices the world leads to our policing of ourselves.

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Stretch Armstrong would be proud of this logic.

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I guess it's just a symptom of the times, but, as far as general consensus goes:

We hate the police...unless they kill a "thug".

We hate our police state...unless they torture a "terrorist".

We love our freedoms...unless our gov't abuses freedoms of others.



It really bothers me that such self-perceived thinkers can hold such opposing views at the same time.


"Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither"-Benny Franklin

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Indelicately put, but what you're trying to address is hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance. Both key features of the human condition if you ask me.

But the real trouble with this board is that, like many places on the internet, it's really just a venue for trolling, attention seeking, worldview validation, and circle jerking. There is very little honest discussion. Lots of snark (guilty), lots of reruns, lots of outrage, etc.

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I just don't get it.

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The lust for power pursues the path to victory.

This quaint notion of "ideology" is just a tool.

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You don't think that our mentality of allowing ourselves to do whatever we want internationally in terms of policing is directly linked to us being okay with police overreach?

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Of course they aren't related. The average U.S. citizen doesn't give a frick about what the military is doing or what happens to people in other countries.

The average citizen does care about the tactics of the police here and the protection of our rights.

I get that you are trying to make some broad pseudo-intellectual point, but the truth is every civilization in the history of the world has maintained an "us vs them" mentality and the U.S. is no different.