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Government shutdown
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:34 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:34 am
Boehner and the moderates seemed determined to pass a CR that will fund the government(all parts including ACA) only omitting DHS funding through until September 2015. Clearly the conservatives want a bill funding Government through Feb.2015 so that the new congress can trim down the purse. To bypass the conservative constituency, the moderates will work with the dems to circumvent any of the extreme(conservative) ideology. Problem is that bitchboy won't get funding for DHS. And bitchboy doesn't compromise, ever. So the question is, will boehner cave to conservatives(causing a shutdown) or the emperor?
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LINK
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Democrats balk at U.S. spending bill, raising shutdown risk
Congressional Democrats objected on Wednesday to controversial financial and political campaign provisions tucked into a $1.1 trillion U.S. spending bill, keeping the risk of a government shutdown alive.
The complaints from House of Representatives Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats clouded the chances for passage of the funding bill as a midnight Thursday deadline drew near.
Republicans were preparing a one-or-two day extension to keep federal agencies open past the deadline, but were unwilling to make any concessions on dozens of provisions added to the bill.
Pelosi said Democrats were "deeply troubled" by Republican measures that would kill planned restrictions on derivatives trading by large, federally insured banks and expand tenfold the amounts that individuals can donate to national political parties.
"These provisions are destructive to middle-class families and to the practice of our democracy. We must get them out of the omnibus package," Pelosi said in a statement.
Democratic support is seen as critical to passage of the spending bill in the House, as Republican aides and lawmakers say it is unlikely their party would be able to muster enough votes for passage on its own.
Many conservative House Republicans oppose the bill, claiming it fails to deny funding for President Barack Obama's controversial executive action on immigration. And Democrats still control the U.S. Senate.
Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, a staunch advocate for tougher regulation of Wall Street, called for Democrats to withhold support from the bill due to the derivatives provision, which would effectively strike down a portion of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law enacted in the wake of a financial crisis fueled partly by complex mortgage derivatives.
But House Republicans were not blinking. A party leadership aide said no changes would be made to the spending measure, which was negotiated by appropriators from both parties. A vote was planned for Thursday.
In 2013, a House vote to repeal the same rule, which requires that banks move derivatives trading to units that do not benefit from federal deposit insurance, attracted 70 Democratic votes.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said the administration was still studying the bill and was not recommending how Democrats should vote.
"As always, we believe that Democrats should vote their conscience. They should make those kinds of decisions for themselves," Earnest told a news briefing.
Unveiled late on Tuesday night, the 1,603-page spending bill got a warm welcome from many House Republicans in a closed-door session with Boehner on Wednesday morning.
While the legislation would fund most federal agencies through September, the end of the current fiscal year, it would only pay for Department of Homeland Security (DHS) activities through February in a move to gain leverage over Obama's immigration order.
DHS is the main agency that will implement Obama's order, which was announced in November. Supported strongly by immigration activists and staunchly opposed by many Republicans, the president's action eased deportation threats for around 4.7 million undocumented immigrants.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:37 am to KeyserSoze999
Shutdown is not a shutdown.
What it appears to be is a successful maneuver for republicans to win landslide elections. Some of the Repussies remain blind to that, though.
What it appears to be is a successful maneuver for republicans to win landslide elections. Some of the Repussies remain blind to that, though.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:38 am to KeyserSoze999
Boehner isn't listening to the voting public.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:39 am to KeyserSoze999
Shutdown was good to the pubs.
Why not do it again.
Why not do it again.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:40 am to KeyserSoze999
The last shutdown resulted in a massive Republican sweep of the mid-term elections.
I would recommend embracing shutdowns.
Let the petty left close national monuments and parks again.
I would recommend embracing shutdowns.
Let the petty left close national monuments and parks again.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:41 am to TrueTiger
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Shutdown was good to the pubs.
Why not do it again.
most definately agree, and if it were not good for the pubs, it should still be done because they are elected to do the right thing rather than worry about the next election. I know, I know, no one thinks that way.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:10 am to KeyserSoze999
They need to decide by today.
I'm scheduled to travel next week on government business (OK you can insert the here), but if no funding then the trip is off.
And with the upcoming holidays I'll have to wait until (at the earliest) January 5 before I can reschedule, which screws up my report due date.
I'm scheduled to travel next week on government business (OK you can insert the here), but if no funding then the trip is off.
And with the upcoming holidays I'll have to wait until (at the earliest) January 5 before I can reschedule, which screws up my report due date.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:12 am to Jake88
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Shutdown is not a shutdown.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:12 am to bamarep
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Boehner isn't listening to the voting public.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:25 am to bamarep
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Boehner isn't listening to the voting public.
Wonder who he is listening to?
Bought and paid for
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 9:27 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:27 am to KeyserSoze999
Boehner will always cave to the dems at the first sign of trouble. He has no spine.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:48 am to KeyserSoze999
The GOP took a beating in the MSM during the last shutdown and Boehner and McConnell are scared out of their minds at the prospect of having Brian Williams point his finger at them.
I will always maintain there is a real difference between the parties but sometimes GOP leadership make the distinction hard to discern.
I will always maintain there is a real difference between the parties but sometimes GOP leadership make the distinction hard to discern.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:51 am to Jake88
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Shutdown is not a shutdown.
correct, this is a false MSM narrative. Reality is quite different.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:49 am to TrueTiger
212 dems just voted for a "government shutdown"
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:18 pm to KeyserSoze999
For once they are right.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:20 pm to TrueTiger
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Shutdown was good to the pubs. Why not do it again.
Uhhhh....Yes, that is exactly what the last election meant. Keep thinking that.
Sincerely, DNC
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:21 pm to KeyserSoze999
One of the good points of the bill is that the IRS and EPA departments will be receiving less money.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:24 pm to KeyserSoze999
If they shut it down, that would be a big mistake.
People might realize just how well they can survive without the intervention of the "ship of fools" and decide to take back their country.
People might realize just how well they can survive without the intervention of the "ship of fools" and decide to take back their country.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:29 pm to adono
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Time for voting had run out minutes before, and briefly the nays—those against the rule—had the majority. At least one Republican had switched a vote from being against the rule to for it, at which time the presiding officer used procedural chicanery to quickly call the vote passed.
:clownshoes:
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